Another British isles discussion

[pineapple stu]

Ah Irish coffee - only drink with the four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. Trust us to invent it.

[First]

Ah Irish coffee - only drink with the four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. Trust us to invent it.

I want one now!!!!!

[-lamb-]

Thats not strictly true either.

The name of the state is Ireland.

The words republic were only brought in when we left the commonwelath

The distinction bit above is wikipedia ********. There's nothing official in it

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1948/...l#zza22y1948s2
you may be right about why the distinction is there, but it is there nonetheless.

"The Republic of Ireland Act, 1948"
"2.—It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland."

[galwayhoop]

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1948/...l#zza22y1948s2
you may be right about why the distinction is there, but it is there nonetheless.

"The Republic of Ireland Act, 1948"
"2.—It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland."

yes but: http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/attached...andNov2004.pdf
Article 4. The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland.


Therefore my interpretation is this:

The Name of the State (under the Constitution): Éire / Ireland
Therefore the Official name of the State (i.e. 26 counties) is Ireland

Described (under the 1948 Act) as: Republic of Ireland
This is to avoid confusing the State (and it's official name) with the description of the Island.

Could be wrong and don't have a legal background but it's how I read it, Officially we are Ireland but we are to describe the country as the Republic of Ireland.

[osarusan]

We are Ireland, or The Republic of Ireland, part of one of the British Isles.

[Dodge]

Could be wrong and don't have a legal background but it's how I read it, Officially we are Ireland but we are to describe the country as the Republic of Ireland.

does nobody read the whole thread anymore. We've established that

[noby]

Reading is for squares, man.

[galwayhoop]

does nobody read the whole thread anymore. We've established that

in fact i did read the thread but i felt the need to compile a brief synopsis for some others who were retrashing the same points over and over

[Saint MacDara]

The stretch of water between England and France is called The English Channel in Britain,the French call it La Manche "The Sleeve" and to confuse things even more it's called Mor Breizh "The Sea of Brittany" in Brittany.

So let's not worry about what geographical terms other countries use and assert our names and identity on how we see our world.

[GavinZac]

The British Isles is an old and outdated term used a long long time ago. Its now called the British and Irish Islands.

wrong. its the british isles, because britons lived here, as they did in britanny.

The other one that annoys me is the word Eire...this word is a British word for our country, eire doesnt actually exist and nothing smells of **** more then some guy going around with a retro t shirt with eire on the back with number 6 for mr sunderland!

wrong. Eir is an indo-european root word for "land", and it is what the people who the Romans called the scotti and the greeks called the iverna, called this island. the norse and normans turned up and added -land to the end of it, the same as they did for angle - land and scotti - land, aswell as is - land and grun -land.

the fact that the islands are called the british isles (of gallic origin), should please you as opposed to the alternatives, e.g. the Saxon isles. that'd go down well i'd say.

[Block G Raptor]

Hate the way the brits use the term Eire because they can't bring themselves to say Republic. but on the other hand it does say eire on our coins does it not

[GavinZac]

Hate the way the brits use the term Eire because they can't bring themselves to say Republic. but on the other hand it does say eire on our coins does it not

id imagine its just because its shorter than saying "the republic of ireland" and they quite legitimately have to differentiate between our nation and the part of their nation that is called ireland.

[dahamsta]

Jesus, is this thread still running?

[rebelarmyexile]

We are Ireland, or The Republic of Ireland, part of one of the British Isles.

Finally someone with a sense of clarity

we Irish, English, Scots and Welsh are Britons, in the historical sense. Then the Normans (French now) invaded bla de blah

[-lamb-]

does nobody read the whole thread anymore. We've established that

thats what i said and you poo pooed it!

Thats not strictly true either.

The name of the state is Ireland.

The words republic were only brought in when we left the commonwelath

The distinction bit above is wikipedia ********. There's nothing official in it

[gael353]

wrong. its the british isles, because britons lived here, as they did in britanny.

wrong. Eir is an indo-european root word for "land", and it is what the people who the Romans called the scotti and the greeks called the iverna, called this island. the norse and normans turned up and added -land to the end of it, the same as they did for angle - land and scotti - land, aswell as is - land and grun -land.

the fact that the islands are called the british isles (of gallic origin), should please you as opposed to the alternatives, e.g. the Saxon isles. that'd go down well i'd say.

Read my second post Gav, you may be right i may be right but its all opinion and im not gonna start by say "wrong" to everything you say

[Lionel Ritchie]

its the british isles, because britons lived here, as they did in britanny.

True ...and not only that but the term "Great Britain" has nothing to do with little englanders thinking they're country's the dogs. It's a straight translation of Grand Bretagne -the expanded "liebensraum" if you will of the Breton empire.

...and it is what the people who the Romans called the scotti and the greeks called the iverna, called this island. the norse and normans turned up and added -land to the end of it, the same as they did for angle - land and scotti - land, aswell as is - land and grun -land.
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I read a while back that the Romans referred to Ireland as Scottia Major and to Scotland as Scottia Minor. Found that peculiar but there you go.

[pineapple stu]

True ...and not only that but the term "Great Britain" has nothing to do with little englanders thinking they're country's the dogs. It's a straight translation of Grand Bretagne -the expanded "liebensraum" if you will of the Breton empire.

Great Britain is to differentiate from Little Britain, not Brittany. To do with size of area.

I read a while back that the Romans referred to Ireland as Scottia Major and to Scotland as Scottia Minor. Found that peculiar but there you go.

Never heard that. Scotland is Alba and Ireland is Hibernia?

[onceahoop]

Jesus, is this thread still running?

Had the same thought myself boss when I saw the thread back up there.

Maybe we can petition our TD's to table a Constitutional Amendment for Eire, Republic of Ireland, Scotia Minor, Ireland, Southern Ireland...............
Let the peolple speak. Then again, if that happens this thread could just run and run and run. There's times when I just need a dark room to lie down in.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Great Britain is to differentiate from Little Britain, not Brittany. To do with size of area.

..what like? ...the TV show?