QuoteNo oh dear about it.Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Oh dear.
If the thread's going in circles then the thread's going in circles. I've looked at the other comments and like yourself if they feel the thread has no more interest or concern to them then they should disregard it. No need to kill off threads though until they decend into the actionable and ridiculous.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
No oh dear about it.Oh dear.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
Good to hear the "Norn Iron" fans chanting No Surrender during God Save The Queen, so much for the 'Football For All' thing you guys have. How you cant understand why some nationalists refuse to play for you il never know.
Not to mention the sea of union jacks all over the stadium in Riga. Football for all. More like football for unionists only!!!!!!
Yea, fair play to ya Kingdom. You've echoed my sentiments and by the look of this thread, you do speak for a lot of people on here who have enough of being antagonised. Its time these threads were closed and the Ealing Greens of this world go back to the Are We A Country forum.
Its a depressing weekend for Ireland, but I'm just glad I'm not a fan of the North. Watching the game on tv yesterday evening once again reminded me of the element that follows that lot.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
Heard them alright. Sad to see that mindset is still there really.
And if they're giving it NS at the game you can be sure that there is worse stuff being sung in the pubs.
A pity for all the genuine NI fans trying to enact some change.
Couldnt believe Iceland drew with Spain. Come on Northern Ireland. Hope they qualify. They deserve it.
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...yeah maybe -a bit like some of ours singing 'Stand Up If You Hate The Brits' to bemused German onlookers a year ago.
But it's cute when we do it I suppose.
...then why are you here JPM? Why are you coming on here to get antagonised? If you want to debate and discuss then do so and if you don't then shuffle along to something that doesn't stimulate your interest in having threads closed. FFS like!
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Some of your statements on these threads really do make it look to everyone that that you just don't really have a clue what you're talking about (the Gary Kelly better than Finnan statement was the nail in the coffin for me personally). How you can compare a handful of idiots trying to be funny slagging 'Brits' (read English btw) to a large number of NI fans roaring No Surrender shows a severe lack of an ability to understand the differences in the current and historical situations both North and South of the border.
You are on the wrong forum. Try www.ourweecounry.iphost.
Last edited by youngirish; 10/09/2007 at 10:23 AM.
...yeah maybe -a bit like some of ours singing 'Stand Up If You Hate The Brits' to bemused German onlookers a year ago.
But it's cute when we do it I suppose.
...then why are you here JPM? Why are you coming on here to get antagonised? If you want to debate and discuss then do so and if you don't then shuffle along to something that doesn't stimulate your interest in having threads closed. FFS like!
Has'nt a clue is right!!
Quote me on it or finish your SunnyD and cheesy strips and get back to class.
Translation: one law for us and a stricter one for them.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
OK sir. I wrote this.
To which you replied.
Case closed your honour. Take him away.
Are you on gear? This was only last week?
Not really. If you can't see the difference then you don't understand both the situations enough to entitle you to comment.Translation: one law for us and a stricter one for them.
In a basic sense Northern Ireland is composed of a Unionist majority and a large Nationalist minority. Four Centuries of conflict between the two have seen hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides of the divide. The most recent period of conflict known as the Troubles lasted from 1969 to 1998 and was responsible for the death of well over 3 thousand people with tens of thousands of injured. Understandly this is still quite fresh in people's mind but since 1998 there has been hope that both sides can work together to overcome their considerable differences. Shouting 'No Surrender' at the national teams football match by a large group of supporters is a throwback to the age old troubled period.
The Republic of Ireland doesn't to any considerable degree have the same political divisions within it's population. The vast majority of the population are united in their desire to maintain the independent Ireland in which they live. We were in a large part the victim of the imperialistic ambitions of our larger neighbour to the east for many centuries until we eventually achieved independence almost a century ago. I've never met a ROI citizen (bar possibly yourself) that could claim in any sense this occupation was an agreeable period in our history and the discrmination, poverty and divison that was part and parcel of it. So if a few idiots want to shout that they hate the Brits I don't see it in exactly the same light to be honest. The Brits are not too bothered as far as I can see anyway and in a historical sense they should at least understand why there is some hatred for them still left on our shores (most of them still believe the British Empire was a liberating entity that brought civilization with it's associated law and technological progress to those more unfortunate areas of the globe that needed it's shining light).
Only someones as ill informed as yourself could compare the two situations in an equal light.
Last edited by youngirish; 10/09/2007 at 11:39 AM.
The only person who I can see who said Kelly is better than Finnan in all that is actually yourself ...though you may have been attempting irony I can't be sure.
I said there's nothing to choose between them and I stand over that.
Thanks for the subsequent local history lesson. I'll only give it a C2 but still the research will surely stand to you by the time you get to transition year.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
If you read any of my post to which you replied it was very obvious it was ironic. I'd say I'm actually older than yourself but if not definitely much, much better informed.
Last edited by youngirish; 10/09/2007 at 11:27 AM.
There was no Union four hundred years ago, nor was there an Irish nation. D3.
Oh ffs. The terms were different but the sentiments were the same. Get over yourself.
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this site.There's nothing at all to choose between Kells and Stevie Finnan.
...well ...go on.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
It's not in the GB Edition of the Sunday Times, nor on their Website, but a member of OWC has today posted the following on that site:
UEFA ASK FAI TO SHUN THEIR FRIENDS IN THE NORTH
Article in today’s Sunday Times states that UEFA asked FAI to omit players until the dispute was sorted out. Claims that this was why Tony Kane was left out of U21s by Don Givens and subsequently opted for NI.
The article goes on "A spokesman for FIFA said on Friday:
"The FIFA legal committee reviewed the question of eligibility of players from the Republic of Ireland to play for Northern Ireland and vice versa during its meeting in mid-August. Following that meeting FIFA requested the FAI and IFA to provide their position on the matter and is currently in consultations with both member associations. At this stage we cannot speculate when a final decision will be taken".
Can anyone scan/post the full article?
Anyhow, whatever FIFA's final determination, this is further evidence for my contention that the eligibility of NI-born players automatically to represent the FAI is not an "open and shut case".
However, it may also suggest that Darron Gibson is OK either way, since the FAI went ahead and selected him anyhow. Might this be because he was previously selected by the FAI at under-age level before the "Brazilian/Qatari" Annex was implemented?
I think they see what a complex question it is. They may well come to the conclusion that any future players will not be eligible but anyone already playing for either is fine to continue to do so.
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