FAI Junior Cup 2007/08

**Nesta** · 23/09/2007, 1:44 PM

Fairview 2 - 0 Janesboro.
Deserved win for the view. Boro started very strongly for 15-20 mins but view then settled. Boro keeper gettin sent off just before half time was a loss for them. From what i saw he had to go tho. It was a farce that that young Polish ref was sent up to ref a game this big (WTF are the LDMC playin at)? Second half Boro really tried to kill the game, plenty of gamesmanship ( in fairness view were puttin them under a lot of pressure and was probably to be expected). Ref had to add about 10 mins of injury time and this is eventually what got to the Boro who looked out on their feet.

25 players up today for the view, whose panel now looks to be very strong. (Paul Harmon, Jason Purcell and Jeffrey Judge the 3 subs who came on). The likes of Gary Hannon, Brendan Hughes, and several other good young players to come in too.

**Jock MIB** · 23/09/2007, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta

Fairview 2 - 0 Janesboro.
Deserved win for the view. Boro started very strongly for 15-20 mins but view then settled. Boro keeper gettin sent off just before half time was a loss for them. From what i saw he had to go tho. It was a farce that that young Polish ref was sent up to ref a game this big (WTF are the LDMC playin at)? Second half Boro really tried to kill the game, plenty of gamesmanship ( in fairness view were puttin them under a lot of pressure and was probably to be expected). Ref had to add about 10 mins of injury time and this is eventually what got to the Boro who looked out on their feet.

Was it because he was young or Polish? what a open statement that was... its not the premiership here... this ref has handled a few premier games and the response i have heard have been complimentry about his abilities.

for the record there are several so called younger guys coming through some are irish , polish and scottish welcome to the real world

**Nesta** · 23/09/2007, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jock MIB

Was it because he was young or Polish? what a open statement that was... its not the premiership here... this ref has handled a few premier games and the response i have heard have been complimentry about his abilities.

for the record there are several so called younger guys coming through some are irish , polish and scottish welcome to the real world

What i meant by what i said was this fixture required an official who knows exactly what to expect from a game like this!! I have seen this ref in question a few times and i have no doubt he is a competant lad (appears to have a good grasp of english too to be fair), and we need lads like him coming through,but to ref a game like this which is make or break for both clubs in question is really throwing him in the deep end (especially with no linesmen present). He genuinely looked shook and flustered on several occasions from abuse he was getting!

**3 Heroes** · 23/09/2007, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jock MIB

Was it because he was young or Polish? what a open statement that was... its not the premiership here... this ref has handled a few premier games and the response i have heard have been complimentry about his abilities.

for the record there are several so called younger guys coming through some are irish , polish and scottish welcome to the real world

You must be joking, I had him a few weeks ago and he was abysmal, talk about being intimidated by the sideline

**Limeref** · 23/09/2007, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by 3 Heroes

You must be joking, I had him a few weeks ago and he was abysmal, talk about being intimidated by the sideline

Well if you know so much - why don't you take it up?

**3 Heroes** · 23/09/2007, 8:28 PM

Originally Posted by Limeref

Well if you know so much - why don't you take it up?

Some of us prefer to play

**Jock MIB** · 23/09/2007, 9:18 PM

Originally Posted by 3 Heroes

Some of us prefer to play

and some prefer to ref but you don't see us calling players performances abysmal. it is called respect which seems to be missing from some people

**progress** · 23/09/2007, 9:46 PM

Originally Posted by 3 Heroes

Some of us prefer to play

ya if u as a player were abused everytime u made a bad decision by your a manager,im sure it would not be too long before u get P*ssed off.referees cant win because someone has to lose and they will ineviteably be unhappy.this problem has existed since time began.just move on and dont criticise referees individual performances.its an impossible job and i know i could not do it.a UN peacekeeping force would have trouble tryin to keep the peace in some junior matches in limerick

**Jock MIB** · 23/09/2007, 9:57 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta

What i meant by what i said was this fixture required an official who knows exactly what to expect from a game like this!! I have seen this ref in question a few times and i have no doubt he is a competant lad (appears to have a good grasp of english too to be fair), and we need lads like him coming through,but to ref a game like this which is make or break for both clubs in question is really throwing him in the deep end (especially with no linesmen present). He genuinely looked shook and flustered on several occasions from abuse he was getting!

Make or break? why would that be... the losing team goes in recievership or something? ..... the only way people learn to handle these games is to be given these games dont you think

**Nesta** · 23/09/2007, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jock MIB

Make or break? why would that be... the losing team goes in recievership or something? ..... the only way people learn to handle these games is to be given these games dont you think

Well if you have any idea how being involved in the FAI influences top junior clubs then you should know exactly what i mean by that. Just see how Janesboro and Fairview fare over the coming months (ie numbers at training, turning up for matches, players leaving, general interest etc) and i'm pretty sure there will be a noticeable difference between the two.

Yes to a certain extent these refs can only gain experience of these games by getting assigned to them, but i think they should be exposed to more local derby premier league games first as opposed to being thrown into big FAI matches so soon where the sidelines are much more vocal and intimidating than league games.

**Green_Hoop** · 24/09/2007, 8:29 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta

Well if you have any idea how being involved in the FAI influences top junior clubs then you should know exactly what i mean by that. Just see how Janesboro and Fairview fare over the coming months (ie numbers at training, turning up for matches, players leaving, general interest etc) and i'm pretty sure there will be a noticeable difference between the two.

Yes to a certain extent these refs can only gain experience of these games by getting assigned to them, but i think they should be exposed to more local derby premier league games first as opposed to being thrown into big FAI matches so soon where the sidelines are much more vocal and intimidating than league games.

Is every match not a derby?considering that every club comes from the same place..Fairview v Pike,Granville v boro,etc...He was reffing last season too and made a good show of it,this is probably a reward if anything.

**Jock MIB** · 24/09/2007, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta

Well if you have any idea how being involved in the FAI influences top junior clubs then you should know exactly what i mean by that. Just see how Janesboro and Fairview fare over the coming months (ie numbers at training, turning up for matches, players leaving, general interest etc) and i'm pretty sure there will be a noticeable difference between the two.

Yes to a certain extent these refs can only gain experience of these games by getting assigned to them, but i think they should be exposed to more local derby premier league games first as opposed to being thrown into big FAI matches so soon where the sidelines are much more vocal and intimidating than league games.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that but thats the teams responsibility to keep there team together not the ref's fault... next you will blame us for mourihno being sacked next

**Monster** · 24/09/2007, 12:59 PM

Good win for fairview.they seem to be progressing nicely and are improving every week and have a few good players to come in yet.

**see's it** · 24/09/2007, 3:23 PM

who are the players to come in they seem to be going grand without them

**Dr Mad** · 24/09/2007, 4:25 PM

Heard from Limerick sources that there are a lot of people looking at the Views ex LOI players as they can only play 5 (?) in Junior Cup, anyone know anything about this?

**Green_Hoop** · 24/09/2007, 5:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Mad

Heard from Limerick sources that there are a lot of people looking at the Views ex LOI players as they can only play 5 (?) in Junior Cup, anyone know anything about this?

Alot of people??Such as? And as far as I know theres no ruling against it..And who's there 5 LOI players?Didn't think they had that many

**Nesta** · 24/09/2007, 6:24 PM

Originally Posted by see's it

who are the players to come in they seem to be going grand without them

Doing very well without them, but outside the starting eleven yesterday (which has to be one of the youngest in the country) for the view you have the likes of Gary Hannon, Jason Purcell, Paul Harmon, Jeffrey Judge, Brendan Hughes, Conor Lynch, Eoin Lynch, Stuart Byrnes, Stephen Grant, Darren ?? (good lad who came from Star), and about 5 or 6 other good young lads. Darren Harrington would have been in a few weeks but looks unlikely now seeing as he is a Limerick regular.

Ages of starting eleven yesterday,
Keeper: 27
Back Four: 26,24,24,24
Midfield: 20,24,19,19
Forwards: 22,21

Avg: 22.7

**Green_Hoop** · 24/09/2007, 6:54 PM

Should really have a preliminary round(Yes I know they have a preliminary of sorts..)but for the weaker clubs to stop some of the above score lines,doesn't do anyone a favour tbh..