Owen Wilson attempted suicide

**noby** · 29/08/2007, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Look at the films he's written, co-written or produced. Far smarter than the comedies he acts in (which I still love btw) - Tenebaums, Bottle Rocket, Rushmore

I don't think anyone's questioning his intelligence, but the majority of films I've seen him act in I have not been impressed with at all.

**strangeirish** · 30/08/2007, 1:12 AM

Sligoman swoops in! Good job brother.

**Maz** · 30/08/2007, 8:29 AM

Was really shocked when I heard this. I wish him well, terrible to have something so serious for him publicised so much but as a celeb that is what happens!

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Nahhhh - I'd hate to be a Dub........

quality

**Risteard** · 30/08/2007, 9:41 AM

Originally Posted by Maz

Was really shocked when I heard this. I wish him well, terrible to have something so serious for him publicised so much but as a celeb that is what happens!

Too true.
I'd say Irish cops would be much more considerate in regards keeping the press out of it and just enjoy watching the unsubstantiated rumour grow.

**noby** · 30/08/2007, 9:56 AM

It seems Steve Coogan is getting the blame.

At what age do you become big enough to make, and live by, your own choices?

**Magicme** · 30/08/2007, 9:57 AM

Why is Steve Coogan being dragged into it?

**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Magicme

Why is Steve Coogan being dragged into it?

Making a film with Wilson and became close friends. Coogan is notoriously into hard drugs.

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 10:13 AM

I was going to write that kinda differently about coogan.

But thats the jist, he is a bad influence according to Courtney Love, which is where it is coming from which Dodge didnt mention. I never knew Courtney could be so easily swayed, nor did I know she wasn't into drugs till she met him! :8:

**Magicme** · 30/08/2007, 10:16 AM

Oh rite.

**cheifo** · 30/08/2007, 10:17 AM

I would say some people are more predisposed to deep thinking than others.
To expand the theme its funny how you get people who of seemingly average intellingence become very wealthy while the deeper thinker who is a genius at Quizs or whatever doesnt seem to progress "up the ladder".Chances are the second guy wants answers to big questions and goes seeking for them and is proably more prone to depression.First guys mind is not cluttered with what he would regard as unhelpful trivia and is focused on getting from A to B.
Second guy is interested in all aspects of footbal including social and cultural but cant afford a season ticket, first guy will go on to own Tottenham Hotspur.

Good luck Owen.
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**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

he is a bad influence according to Courtney Love, which is where it is coming from which Dodge didnt mention.

She wasn't the first to talk about his "party" lifestyle.

**bellavistaman** · 30/08/2007, 10:57 AM

Gutted to hear this, hes a legend, his films are class. Wedding Crashers my favourite, the combination of stiller ferrell vaughn, and the other dude from evan almighty are class.

**dcfcsteve** · 30/08/2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by cheifo

I would say some people are more predisposed to deep thinking than others.
To expand the theme its funny how you get people who of seemingly average intellingence become very wealthy while the deeper thinker who is a genius at Quizs or whatever doesnt seem to progress "up the ladder".Chances are the second guy wants answers to big questions and goes seeking for them and is proably more prone to depression.First guys mind is not cluttered with what he would regard as unhelpful trivia and is focused on getting from A to B.
Second guy is interested in all aspects of footbal including social and cultural but cant afford a season ticket, first guy will go on to own Tottenham Hotspur.

Good luck Owen.
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I think it's not as straight-forward as the morbid ponderer versus the untroubled simpleton, though I suspect there is a seed of truth in there.

The fundamental principle of nature is 'balance'. You often find that the more cerebral/academic a person is, for example, the less practical they tend to be or the less socialy capable they are. Nature tends not to give everyone all life's skills in abundance (or at least, not outside of Derry.....

).

Without getting into the whole social and behavioural psychology of group roles etc, people tend to lie somewhere along a continum between thinking and doing. Hence - it's not unusual to find a very intelligent person who is totally disorganised or feckin clueless at simple things or at looking after themselves. It's not that they're too high brow for such trivial mundane matters - it's just that they're not wired that way. Likewise, I'm sure we all know people who have done very well for themselves in life despite not being all that bright - because they're hard workers, risk-takers, tenacious, intelligent in non-traditional/non-academic ways (e.g. emotional intelligence, people skills, networking) etc. Just because they're not rocket scientists doesn't stop them getting on and doing/achieving stuff.

The ideal scenario is to twin a good creative thinker with a dynamic doer. Otherwise the thinker gets nothing done, and the doer is just a bundle of poorly channeled energy.

**Risteard** · 30/08/2007, 11:25 AM

HHhhhhhhhhhmmmm. Interesting concept dcfcsteve.

As for those actors, apparently they're collectively called the Frat Pack.
I don't know why.

**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 11:42 AM

Because Americans like to put titles on actors who work in the same area at the same time. The Rat pack being the first, then the 80s Brat Pack, and now the college humour Frat Pack.

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I think it's not as straight-forward as the morbid ponderer versus the untroubled simpleton, though I suspect there is a seed of truth in there.

The fundamental principle of nature is 'balance'. You often find that the more cerebral/academic a person is, for example, the less practical they tend to be or the less socialy capable they are. Nature tends not to give everyone all life's skills in abundance (or at least, not outside of Derry.....

).

Without getting into the whole social and behavioural psychology of group roles etc, people tend to lie somewhere along a continum between thinking and doing. Hence - it's not unusual to find a very intelligent person who is totally disorganised or feckin clueless at simple things or at looking after themselves. It's not that they're too high brow for such trivial mundane matters - it's just that they're not wired that way. Likewise, I'm sure we all know people who have done very well for themselves in life despite not being all that bright - because they're hard workers, risk-takers, tenacious, intelligent in non-traditional/non-academic ways (e.g. emotional intelligence, people skills, networking) etc. Just because they're not rocket scientists doesn't stop them getting on and doing/achieving stuff.

The ideal scenario is to twin a good creative thinker with a dynamic doer. Otherwise the thinker gets nothing done, and the doer is just a bundle of poorly channeled energy.

great post cheifo, but without getting into a "DCFCSTEVE ive just pulled this out of a book " theory, generally that is correct. However a point to disproof this is that travellers are amongst the highest rate of suicides a year. Though you could say these are the smarter ones who realise that a life that they lead is not what they so wish, but actually the IQ was quite low in a lot of cases.

Frat Pack.

its a pun on fraternity and rat pack, as the modern day rat pack, but the mindset of college fraternity boys. A La Old school.

At least thats what I reckon, and I know if I go google it i will be right