Four eL players in the latest U-21 squad

**Poor Student** · 23/08/2007, 7:45 PM

http://www.irishfootballonline.com/n...hp?newsid=7177

And what's that? Three of them are from UCD.

Ireland under-21 squad (to play Portugal)
Darren Randolph (Charlton Athletic)
Darren Quigley (University College Dublin)
Eddie Nolan (Blackburn Rovers)
Darren O'Dea (Glasgow Celtic)
Richard Keogh (Bristol City)
Darren Dennehy (Everton)
Stephen O'Halloran (Aston Villa)
Conor Powell (Bohemians)
Stephen Gleeson (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Patrick Cregg (Falkirk)
Stephen Quinn (Sheffield United)
Shane McFaul (University College Dublin)
Michael Collins (Huddersfield Town)
Keith Treacy (Blackburn Rovers)
Adam Rooney (Stoke City)
James O'Brien (Glasgow Celtic)
Billy Clarke (Ipswich Town)
Conor Sammon (University College Dublin)

**Sam_Heggy** · 23/08/2007, 8:47 PM

only a matter of time before a young Mr.Coleman makes that squad. Lets hope he can achive this in LOI. More the merrier.

**SligoBrewer** · 23/08/2007, 8:50 PM

how is seamie not there

**Schumi** · 23/08/2007, 9:11 PM

Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

how is seamie not there

He doesn't play for UCD?

**Tis-smeee** · 23/08/2007, 9:34 PM

Amazing all Dublin clubs,can givens find his way past the red cow

**Midgit** · 23/08/2007, 9:36 PM

Gary Curran not there.
But Seamus Coleman should have been in the squad.

**Dodge** · 23/08/2007, 10:55 PM

Despise this "should've been called up"

And 4 of the 18 man squad are based in Dublin so its obviously dublin biased

BTW Pats had 4 players in an u21 squad in 1998/99 (Morgan, Molloy, Hawkins and Doyle) Game was against Sweden.

**cheifo** · 23/08/2007, 11:20 PM

The fact that Garvan hasnt been included shows the blinkers are on even in Dublin.Coleman has been outstanding and deserves a call up IMO.
Anybody know what Colemans DOB is btw.

**Risteard** · 24/08/2007, 1:22 AM

Is this on in Turners Cross?
+ What date?

**DmanDmythDledge** · 24/08/2007, 1:26 AM

Originally Posted by cheifo

Anybody know what Colemans DOB is btw.

3/8/88.

Originally Posted by Risteard

Is this on in Turners Cross?
+ What date?

Yes, 7 September.

**Jerry The Saint** · 24/08/2007, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by Risteard

Is this on in Turners Cross?
+ What date?

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

3/8/88.
Yes, 7 September.

Dublin bias strikes again.

**dcfcsteve** · 24/08/2007, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

Dublin bias strikes again.

I wouldn't read too much into team inclusions for this game lads. September is a key month for the league - any decent player for a team with League, Setanta or European ambitions wouldn't be allowed away to play for the U21's. No disrespect to UCD - but the fact they're happy to lose 3 players on the night they're due to play Cork says a lot about their ambitions this season.

On the night of that U21 game, Pats play City at the Brandywell and Bohs take on Rovers. Two massive fixtures for the league and the teams involved. Where would you rather see Pat's key players that night, for example - at the Brandywell or Turners Cross ?

What would be interesting would be to find out if any other EL clubs were approached for players to be included in the panel, and told the FAI no.

**Schumi** · 24/08/2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

No disrespect to UCD - but the fact they're happy to lose 3 players on the night they're due to play Cork says a lot about their ambitions this season.

The Cork game will be postponed I assume.

What would be interesting would be to find out if any other EL clubs were approached for players to be included in the panel, and told the FAI no.

Bohs have a player in the squad too, afaik Powell has played most of their games this year. I'm sure the reason you don't have any players in the squad is because you're too big and important though.

**LeixlipRed** · 24/08/2007, 10:26 AM

The importance of Derry is one of Steve's favourite subjects. And that Pats v City game is important Steve, Pats just have to be beating these mid table teams if they've any ambitions to still win the title

**dcfcsteve** · 24/08/2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Schumi

The Cork game will be postponed I assume.

The UCD website has you down to play Cork in the league at Turners Cross on Monday 10th September as well anyway. Another rescheduled game against Cork would be interesting.

Originally Posted by Schumi

Bohs have a player in the squad too, afaik Powell has played most of their games this year. I'm sure the reason you don't have any players in the squad is because you're too big and important though.

Very childish retort Schumi - I'd expect better from you. Especially as you know that we've been contributing regularly to the U21 panel for the last number of seasons (e.g. Deery). Bottom line is that a club taking the league seriously wouldn't want to lose 3 players at such an important juncture - rescheduling or not.

**dcfcsteve** · 24/08/2007, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

The importance of Derry is one of Steve's favourite subjects. And that Pats v City game is important Steve, Pats just have to be beating these mid table teams if they've any ambitions to still win the title

Errr - yes, they do actually. That's how football works.....

And all this from a Shels fan - the team who couldn't even beat a 9-man City team playing without it's proper keeper...

**LeixlipRed** · 24/08/2007, 10:34 AM

We beat you at not scoring penalties. Which is what football is all about. Well in some countries

**Dodge** · 24/08/2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

What would be interesting would be to find out if any other EL clubs were approached for players to be included in the panel, and told the FAI no.

Will never happen.

1) It s aqualifier so they must be released
2) Clubs don't want to **** off the FAI
3) Clubs don't want to **** off their players. And every LOI player wants to play internationally

**Schumi** · 24/08/2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

The UCD website has you down to play Cork in the league at Turners Cross on Monday 10th September as well anyway. Another rescheduled game against Cork would be interesting.

Avoiding two games against Cork in four days would be a good thing in my book. Having two rescheduled games against one team is hardly unprecedented. Didn't Drogheda and Derry have two games postponed a couple of seasons ago?

Very childish retort Schumi - I'd expect better from you.

Dismissing us as an unambitious, small-time club for having three players in a international squad is a new level in fairness.

Especially as you know that we've been contributing regularly to the U21 panel for the last number of seasons (e.g. Deery).

You weren't playing in the league when he was in the squad,then?

**dcfcsteve** · 24/08/2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Didn't Drogheda and Derry have two games postponed a couple of seasons ago?

Yes - and it destroyed our season. As far as I'm aware, both clubs have to agree to a postponement (though the FAI might butt-in if it was for an international game).

Originally Posted by Schumi

Dismissing us as an unambitious, small-time club for having three players in a international squad is a new level in fairness.

You know well that that isn't what I'm saying here - and you know full well that surrendering 3 plasyers at such a key time in the league says a lot. What if Sammon got injured, for example? How worthwhile would it have been to let him go then?

Originally Posted by Schumi

You weren't playing in the league when he was in the squad,then?

We didn't have 3 players away at key times. We have also pulled players in the past from underage international duty (we have NI players as well) when it's been in our interests to do so. It's a huge honour for a player to represent their country, so no manager or club would want to deny them that opportunity. But if it is against your club's interests - and expecially if it could mean losing up to 25% of your frist team squad - you'd have to think twice about it. If you didn't think it would make that much difference to your team, then you'd roll with it.