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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunners View Post
    I think you will find that he was used as a wide player in EPL / Championship. It was only when he joined the SPL that he was played in his natural position and the goals started to flow
    Yes I did mention that. Of course wide players don't score goals!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Are you saying that because he didn't perform as well as he could when he was at (and on loan from) Sunderland when he was 19 and 20 that teams won't want to sign him? That is laughable. I think both his managers (Lennon and Hughes) have stated Stokes personal and footballing development since that spell at Sunderland has impressed them.

    Nikica Jelavic had only one good goalscoring season prior to his move to Rangers. By your logic, Everton should have taken into account his mediocrity prior to that, at an even lower than Premiership level.

    I think Stokes looks sharp and is worth a punt for any championship team, especially at the £2m mark anyway. He has the attributes for Premiership level so hopefully he'll step up. He won't be 24 till the summer.
    I am basing my opinion on Stokes I don't see what Jelavic has go to do with it. T What exactly are Stokes attributes for the Premiership? His space is mediocre, his anticipation is average etc. His touch / technique is decent but not spectacular. He'll doesn't have the workrate of a Kevin Doyle or Shane Long and doesn't have the ability of a Robbie Keane.

    Wenger said around '05 s that his best position is midfield. Its a shame Stokes didn't listen to him as he could have been a decent attacking midfielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennedmc View Post
    I am basing my opinion on Stokes I don't see what Jelavic has go to do with it. T What exactly are Stokes attributes for the Premiership? His space is mediocre, his anticipation is average etc. His touch / technique is decent but not spectacular. He'll doesn't have the workrate of a Kevin Doyle or Shane Long and doesn't have the ability of a Robbie Keane.

    Wenger said around '05 s that his best position is midfield. Its a shame Stokes didn't listen to him as he could have been a decent attacking midfielder.
    I'm saying Jelavic was worth a punt, even though the SPL is where he seemed to find form (one good season with Rapid Vienna aside). I said this in reaction to your assertion that championship teams wouldn't want to sign Stokes because he wasn't scoring goals at that level, which was 3 years ago.

    How do you mean his space? His touch is decent, he's an excellent striker of the ball, is strong at setpieces (both penalties and free kicks) and I think his anticipation is quite good. Is it the complete player your after? I'm sure he's young enough and brave enough to make the move to the Championship/Prem and someone will take a punt on him.

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    Stokes has two goals in the goal of the season award on Celtic's site: http://www.celticfc.tv/poy_goals
    although I'd say it'll go to Dylan McGeouch
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    Stretchered off today on 35mins in Celtics friendly with Inter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Stretchered off today on 35mins in Celtics friendly with Inter.
    Anthony Stokes is confident of being fit to face HJK Helsinki on Wednesday.

    The striker looked badly injured when he was stretchered off 36 minutes into the 1-1 draw with Inter Milan but left the ground pushing the buggy of his toddler Bobbie.

    Celtic finished the match with 10 men after Kris Commons also picked up an ankle injury but Stokes is hopeful that he’ll be fit to face the Finns.

    At home after the match he tweeted: “Ankle is not broken, bruised and swollen but hopefully it’s not too bad! Will be on the ice machine for the rest of the day… Shud b fun!”

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    So what's the story with him now? Is he injured?

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    He has a long standing brain injury.

    But yes, he is injured... Hell be back in December/January.
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    He's still out injured until the New Year but a bit of press coverage of young Anthony to keep us going..........

    Tom English: Anthony Stokes has disgraced Celtic
    Celtic striker Anthony Stokes. Picture: SNS

    By TOM ENGLISH
    Published on Sunday 2 December 2012 00:00


    ALL of his life, Anthony Stokes has been mixing in the sort of company that would stun you into silence. In his circle of friends in Dublin the Celtic striker has some of the city’s most notorious criminals, some of whom are, or were, members of the Real IRA, the terrorism splinter group that oppose the peace process in Northern Ireland and who see anybody who has turned away from violence as some kind of sell-out or “Judas”, as one of Stokes’ most hardcore mates put it a while back.


    That mate was Alan Ryan, who is now dead. As he walked through the streets of north Dublin on 3 September, Ryan was shot in the body, the legs and the head by a masked gunman. Ryan was the Real IRA’s leader in Dublin, a person who had done four years in prison for his association with terrorism. He was one of the most feared crime overlords in the Irish capital, believed to be responsible for ordering the death of three of his enemies in an ongoing drugs war. Earlier this year he personally used a hacksaw to cut off the fingers of a criminal who had refused to pay him protection money. Five months before he met his end, somebody had tried to kill Ryan while he sat in the pub owned by Stokes’ father, John.
    On the day of his funeral, Stokes tweeted about his mate. “Thinking of you Alan,” he said. The funeral became a circus with men in balaclavas and full paramilitary regalia complete with a volley of gunshots as his coffin left his home on the north of the city. Police officers had the place surrounded. The media were there in big numbers. Ryan was a high-profile gangster and his death was national news in Ireland.
    A few weeks back, Stokes went to Dublin to attend a fundraiser for Ryan, an event that police had under surveillance given some of the people that went through the door that night. Last weekend, a female reporter in Ireland, who has bravely covered the Ryan story for some time, wrote about the fundraiser and the fact that Stokes attended it. During the week she received two death threats after some of Ryan’s sympathisers put her mobile phone number and other personal details on a website set up as a memorial to Ryan.The threat was not idle. In 1996, the fearless Sunday Independent crime reporter Veronica Guerin was shot dead in her car by a crime gang, an event that scandalised the nation and made it aware, too late, that the gangland figures in Dublin were lawless beyond anything anybody ever dared to imagine. So, when those death threats were issued last week, a Garda patrol car with armed detectives was immediately placed outside the journalist’s home.

    On Friday, Celtic said they take a very dim view of Stokes’ attendance at the fundraiser and that they will deal with it internally.
    Officially, they would say no more about it but we can take it as fact that the striker’s activities have gone down badly at Celtic Park. By rights, they should sack him. He has disgraced his club.
    Some might say that is harsh, given that one glance at Stokes’ twitter feed shows an exchange with a bloke who says he hopes the UVF put a bullet in the footballer’s head sometime soon. But this is the world Stokes lives in and this is the treatment – utterly abhorrent and demanding of police intervention – that he has opened himself up to. Stokes’ abuser should be found and put away but what the hell was the player doing at the fundraiser in the first place?
    His supporters would, no doubt, argue that he was just honouring the memory of somebody he has known since he was a kid, that it doesn’t follow that he supported Ryan in his vermin deeds and that a friend is a friend.
    It’s true that Stokes was born into this, that connections to people in the underworld were part of his natural life since before he even knew how to spell the word and that it must be hard to extricate yourself from that life.
    But has he even tried?
    There is no evidence in anything that he has ever said that points to an awareness of a need to move on from these people.
    There is a feeling that Lennon would like to say a whole lot more about this but feels, for various reasons, that he cannot. At least not yet.
    There is no question but that the Celtic manager will be horrified to hear about the death threats issued to the journalist given that Lennon himself has, sadly, suffered in a similar way.
    The club’s reluctance to speak out publicly should not be taken as an endorsement of Stokes but, to the watching public, it might well look that way and nobody could be criticised for thinking that Celtic have not reacted as they should have.
    Again, we say: Not yet. There is a hope that they will have plenty to say in time.
    You can contextualise it all you like, you can look into Stokes’ family upbringing and say: ‘Look, he never stood a chance.’
    But the fact remains that a Celtic player was fraternising with crime bosses suspected of multiple murders who also had well-known links to terrorism and that the journalist who wrote about it first has been targeted by these people and last week was being protected by armed detectives camped outside her house. That’s the beginning, the end and the in-between of this saga.
    Stokes has been injured all season but the damage to his ankle is as nothing compared to the damage to his reputation.
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    Celtic star Stokes in sue threat over links to RIRA boss Ryan

    Anthony Stokes


    By Cormac Murphy

    Monday December 03 2012


    CELTIC striker Anthony Stokes has indicated he will sue following an article about his links to murdered Real IRA leader Alan Ryan.
    Journalist Tom English wrote in Scotland on Sunday it was not good for Celtic that one of its players would have such close links to Ryan.
    Stokes knew Ryan (32) for years through the RIRA man's association with the Players' Lounge Bar in Fairview, which is owned by the footballer's family.
    The 24-year-old striker was at a memorial in Crumlin for Ryan, who was shot dead near his home on September 3 last in Donaghmede.
    Stokes took to Twitter, saying: "Nice article this morning, so many lies."
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    The journalist hit back, telling the footballer: "I did my homework just fine, Anthony. If I got facts wrong then feel free to sue me."
    Stokes told him he has "already arranged for that".
    But Mr English responded: "Good for you. You might be surprised to see who some of my witnesses are going to be."
    The spat erupted in the wake of the article which was heavily critical of Stokes' links to Ryan. Stokes, who is currently out through injury, told the journalist he knew Alan through the pub and he was not a childhood friend.
    Mr English reported that Celtic said they take a very dim view of Stokes' attendance at the benefit night in Crumlin and that they will deal with it internally.
    Hundreds of people attended the November 2 memorial for Ryan at the Submarine Bar which was closely watched by armed gardai.
    Photographs later emerged of Stokes enjoying himself at the event.
    The footballer said he was "attending a fundraiser for a family to pay funeral costs".
    During the night, friends of the murdered criminal joined together to sing The Ballad Of Alan Ryan -- which vows to avenge his killers.
    Gardai believe Ryan was responsible for a number of murders, including the shooting dead of criminal Sean Winters in Portmarnock in September 2010 and the gunning down of gangland figure Michael 'Mica' Kelly in north Dublin in September last year.
    As Ryan was laid to rest, a volley of shots was fired over Ryan's coffin as he was given a full republican military funeral.
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    Stokes came on for Celtic in a winter break bounce game versus Steaua Bucharest in Marbella. Got 20 minutes, did nothing of note but good to see him back. Obviously not expecting to see him in an Ireland shirt any time soon.

    Celtic have a few striking options with Samaras, Hooper, Lassad, Bangura, Tony Watt, Miku so not sure how he'll be fixed for getting back in to the team, seems such a long time ago that he was partnering with Hooper so well.
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    Angry Ant back on the bench tonight against Dundee United. He was also on the bench for the weekend win over Hearts but wasn't used.

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    Got 10 minutes or so tonight. Game was already won at 4:0.

    Big talk about Hooper leaving in the January transfer window. Though Norwich are the only ones to make a firm offer, just north of £5m. Celtic looking for £8m.

    If he goes, there is a slot to fill, can Stokesy do it? What odds on him starting against Juve in 3 weeks time?............nah ill keep my £1 in my pocket.........
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    Celtic have a huge chance to get into the last eight of the semi-finals. They should hold on to Hooper and sell him in the summer instead.

    Does anyone know how much money they'd get, including tv money, prize money from UEFA, and a home match gate receipt from the tie at Juventus? I mean, if they were to progress?

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    I thought it was about £2 million, but Wikipedia is telling me it's €3.9 million extra, plus presumably £1 million or so for a full house in the quarters. Prize money and TV money are one and the same, unless I'm mistaken. You'd then have to subtract bonuses from that, although for Celtic I'm not sure many players would have those written in.

    Unless they're offered silly money, it would make no sense to sell Hooper now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Ch...ue#Prize_money

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    It's not always up to the club to decide when to sell. Celtic want to keep him.
    Hooper wants to go and has refused new contract terms.
    If he does stay, his transfer value could drop in the summer as he only has a year left then.

    But the reported £5m transfer fee is an insult, not worth considering as Celtic could get that in the summer for him.

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    Exactly.

    I think something around the £8m and he will be off, otherwise he has 18months left on his contract so will be going nowhere.

    It wouldnt hurt him to sign a one year extension and go in the summer. Celtic's current price tag is safeguarded and it wouldnt have a material impact on him going in the summer as he wont be going unless they offer that sort of money now anyway. In the meantime, he'll get 6 months on better terms than he currently has. Everyone is a winner!!

    To be honest, if he goes to Norwich or somewhere similar he could be waiting a long time to feature in the last 16 of the CL or win a few medals . I know its only two more CL games (minimum ) but still, that coupled with an SPL Championship and possibly a cup medal or two. I think he should stick around until the summer and then go.

    Meanwhile Stokesy should step it up now he has regained fitness and look to pile on some pressure and get in the starting line up.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    To be honest, if he goes to Norwich or somewhere similar he could be waiting a long time to feature in the last 16 of the CL or win a few medals . I know its only two more CL games (minimum ) but still, that coupled with an SPL Championship and possibly a cup medal or two. I think he should stick around until the summer and then go.
    When I see players and managers doing things mis-season that I find off I always think of these scenarios. It reminds me of the time Owen Coyle went to Bolton. He was pratically unsackable at Burnley and even if they got relegated he could have had a decent job in the summer come his way. The mind boggles sometimes.

    In saying that I was the main man at PEC Zwolle and won the Dutch Cup almost singlehandedly as a 17yo midfield maestro and led them to second in the table with my goals in my second season. But jumpd to PSV in the January transfer window when it became an option. I'm now no longer playing regularly and my team mates don't trust me but I still bang them in given the opportunity.

    So yeah based on my Become-a-Legend status, Hooper should stay at Celtic 'til the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    When I see players and managers doing things mis-season that I find off I always think of these scenarios. It reminds me of the time Owen Coyle went to Bolton. He was pratically unsackable at Burnley and even if they got relegated he could have had a decent job in the summer come his way. The mind boggles sometimes.

    In saying that I was the main man at PEC Zwolle and won the Dutch Cup almost singlehandedly as a 17yo midfield maestro and led them to second in the table with my goals in my second season. But jumpd to PSV in the January transfer window when it became an option. I'm now no longer playing regularly and my team mates don't trust me but I still bang them in given the opportunity.

    So yeah based on my Become-a-Legend status, Hooper should stay at Celtic 'til the summer.
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    hoprfully hooper goes stokes is a class act it would be great chance for him to show his undoubted talents

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAFC_rdfl View Post
    that's in fifa, right?
    Gawd no. Eugh.

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