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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Reportedly heading back to Scotland to join Livingston FC. Livingston marginally better than Iran I suppose.

    The first page of this thread from 16 years ago makes for fairly depressing reading looking back at it now, the hopes for Stokes back then were very similar to what we're saying about some of our young players coming through at the moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    Agree to an extent but the players we are excited about now are playing regularly in the top two leagues of English football, Stokes had a 6 month period on fire at Falkirk; the two are polar opposites.
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    I agree. I have a post in the first couple of pages mentioning the likes of Stokes, Andy Keogh, Billy Clarke, Shane Long and Richie Sadlier who all had shown promise at a very young age. Only Long forged what amounted to be a decent career out of all those mentioned and he never could be described as a top striker.

    Somebody else mentioned a 17 year old Terry Dixon at Tottenham (remember him). Unfortunate that none of these guys for a variety of reasons never made it to the top. We could really have done with a decent striker to partner Keane.
    Wasn't it enough to have Quinn, Morrison, Doyle, Long and Walters to partner him during his time. On the general point, I agree with Livehead that there is reason to believe that this crop of strikers holds more promise than Stokes, Keogh, Clarke and Sadlier:
    - Keogh was 23 when he made his Premier League Debut, only played 14 times in the EPL scoring one goal - he only reached double figures in the Championship once - he was still good enough to earn 30 caps
    - While Sadlier was talented and his career would clearly have been more successful if he didn't have to retire aged 24, up to then he had only played in the second and third tiers
    - Billy Clarke never played in the Premier League and only scored four times in The Championship

    By comparison, of the new crop:
    - Aaron Connolly turned 20 in January, has played 24 times in the EPL, scoring 3 goals already
    - Michael Obafemi turned 20 in July, has 28 EPL appearances and 4 goals to his name
    - Adam Idah already has 12 appearances and he only turned 19 in February and, while he has yet to score in the EPL, in his only appearance against Championship opposition, he grabbed a hat-trick
    - Troy Parrott is a year younger than Idah, already has a couple of EPL appearances under his belt, and will likely get a full season of Championship football this season.

    In fact, while not wanting to disrespect Keogh, Clarke and Sadlier, who are all fine footballers, our next tier of striking talent (Cassidy, Scully, Kayode and Afolabi) look about as promising as them currently - not to mention a few more showing strong potential at academy level (Odubeko, Oko-Flex, Cannon and Varian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philly View Post
    Are you seriously saying Stokes was a missed opportunity for Ireland when we had Keane, Walters and Long?
    Also Sammon, Cox, Keogh, Noel Hunt and the big lad from Hull City Caleb Folan. Kevin Doyle was the aldridge of the time was class.

    yeah but when he was at Celtic he should have been given more chances, he was getting good i thought. Robbie Keane was 35 in euro 2016. Walters was called up once he got transferred to Stoke and i think in 2011. I said that Trap and Martin should have tried younger players at the time. Damien Delaney, Hoolahan . Joey O´Brien, Marc Wilson and a few more guys.

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    To be fair Anthony Stokes was a huge missed opportunity, but it was an opportunity missed by Stokes, not by Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    To be fair Anthony Stokes was a huge missed opportunity, but it was an opportunity missed by Stokes, not by Ireland.
    He made a lot of mess ups but did he have the pace to make it at higher level ! !

    We may well be asking the same questions about Parrot in the coming years ! Mind you some players use other attributes, one of the best examples was Teddy Sheringham = little or no pace but excellent positionally , very good passer and was very good in the air. He still did not play for England much but a fine player that got over a lack of pace. A dedicated trainer and dedicated to football as far as I know anyway. That makes a big difference !

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    I remember well a few occasions when Stokes showed talent and ability above what his career path may have reflected.

    One particular Champions League game in the San Siro Against Milan he lead the line for Celtic and was superb. Showed all the qualities of a player the level of the opposition that night despite Celtic (obviously) losing.

    He was often either a sub or played off Hooper however who was a more effective goalscorer. Certainly a very very talented player.

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    I think it was Trappatoni the one who shut down players. Once Brady left his positiion it was his fate and Marco's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    Agree to an extent but the players we are excited about now are playing regularly in the top two leagues of English football, Stokes had a 6 month period on fire at Falkirk; the two are polar opposites.
    I think that's harsh. Stokes scored 100 goals over a 5-year period excluding the Falkirk spell. Definitely wasn't a half-season wonder

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    Heard a rumour yesterday that Stokes was being released from his Livingston contract already as he had been set a fitness and training program to get up to speed but hadn't been sticking to it.

    The Daily Ranger in Scotland is now reporting the story, but the reason being given is that he didn't like training on the artificial pitch at Almondvale.

    Either way, you would imagine that's his final chance blown as a full time professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Heard a rumour yesterday that Stokes was being released from his Livingston contract already as he had been set a fitness and training program to get up to speed but hadn't been sticking to it.

    The Daily Ranger in Scotland is now reporting the story, but the reason being given is that he didn't like training on the artificial pitch at Almondvale.

    Either way, you would imagine that's his final chance blown as a full time professional.
    Odds on him heading back to Shels before he retires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Heard a rumour yesterday that Stokes was being released from his Livingston contract already as he had been set a fitness and training program to get up to speed but hadn't been sticking to it.

    The Daily Ranger in Scotland is now reporting the story, but the reason being given is that he didn't like training on the artificial pitch at Almondvale.

    Either way, you would imagine that's his final chance blown as a full time professional.
    Confirmed.


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    He's a wrong 'un
    Folding my way into the big money!!!

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    Would he be of any use to a League of Ireland Team ? ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Would he be of any use to a League of Ireland Team ? ?
    Probably. Probably more hassle than he's worth though, and he might view it as beneath him.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    A violent thug, towards women as well as men, a open supporter of the real IRA

    I don't care if he was Bergkamp, I wouldn't have wanted him in a million years

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    where is him at now? I always liked him as a footballer. Trapp and Tardelli were a terrible choice for Ireland specially after the Henry hand, check the stats and the players at disposal at the time.

    He played players that were worse than other ones. Didnt rate Delap, Hoolahan and a few more. And what he did to Stephen Reid....mama mia, everyday an italiano charlatan.

    He was finished once Liam Brady left . And for Euro 2012 he was very lucky to qualify. The game in Russia we were terrible if not for Given and Dunne. Terrible
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