Still waiting for an answer from EG to tell us all what darron gibsons "political/non-football" motives are for wanting to play for us and not ni.
First, owc is a private messageboard, owned by Marty, who can do whatever the hell he likes with it.Originally Posted by lopez
Second, my Favourites Link takes me past the home page and straight into the forum, so I never even noticed the banner in question (which in any case, wasn't there when I checked just now).
Third, had I noticed it, I might well have complained, in the same way as I have complained about a number of other threads, posts etc, which I felt were similarly inappropriate.
Fourth, if the IFA ever carried a political message like that in any of its official publications or forums etc, then damned right I'd complain about it!
Finally, it's a bit rich your complaining about a political message on another Board when you posted on this Board that you were not just entitled, but proud, to sing IRA songs at ROI matches. As such, that puts you right up there with Young Irish and Livehead on this Board in your espousal of double standards...
Still waiting for an answer from EG to tell us all what darron gibsons "political/non-football" motives are for wanting to play for us and not ni.
I think Wales fly the Welsh flag and the Scots fly the Scottish flag.
Northern Ireland fly a Northern Irish flag.
If we changed to a Saint Patrick's Cross, I'm quite sure I could live with that.
On anthem, I support the introduction of a new "sporting" anthem, to be played at appropriate football, GAA and rugby matches held in Northern Ireland.
The team called "Northern Ireland" will not be changing tho - and that's the real issue with many people.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Can you share this link? that lopez is refering to I mean.First, owc is a private messageboard, owned by Marty, who can do whatever the hell he likes with it.
Second, my Favourites Link takes me past the home page and straight into the forum, so I never even noticed the banner in question (which in any case, wasn't there when I checked just now).
So when we play as "Ireland" belfast should be included as part of IReland? The island of Ireland?The game in Belfast was deemed an "away" fixture by the IRFU.
"Protocol" only seems to work one way.
I'm sure it comes as a great shock to many people that Belfast is not in Ireland - at least according to the brains at the IRFU.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Where on earth did you hear/read that!?
So are you saying that it's actually a mercenary desire for success which is behind DG's opting for the ROI? Some Irishman, that, eh? Still, he'll be in good company with all the other "plastics" who suddenly remembered their Oirishness when the chance to play in World Cups etc presented itself.So tell us o fountain of knowledge what are Gibson's political/non-footballing issues why he won't play for you lot? you would love to put it down to that now.
Maybe he wants to play for a side that has good footballers, great up and coming talent and might actually qualify for a major competition. In fact, Gibson might remember the days of the 1994 world cup or 2002 world cups, he'll hardly remember Northern Ireland last qualifying for a major tournament as he wasn't even born!!
Of course, when the Qualification Tables for Euro2008 are finally worked out, it could just turn out that he backed the wrong horse on that one, too!
You haven't answered the question. Your like a fecking politician, attempt to answer a question by asking a question!So are you saying that it's actually a mercenary desire for success which is behind DG's opting for the ROI? Some Irishman, that, eh? Still, he'll be in good company with all the other "plastics" who suddenly remembered their Oirishness when the chance to play in World Cups etc presented itself.
Of course, when the Qualification Tables for Euro2008 are finally worked out, it could just turn out that he backed the wrong horse on that one, too!
I think that would be a very positive move - but can you imagine trying to convince the GAA, or some of the more extreme NI supporters.
[QUOTE=eelmonster;759838]The original IFA represented the island of Ireland, not 6 counties in the north east of the country (as it was then
I have no idea what flag, if any, the IFA flew prior to 1921. But I am certain that the IFA will never have flown any "sectarian" flag of any sort, defunct or current, at any stage before or since.
The Ulster banner is a politically sectarian flag.
And the IFA does not fly the Union Flag at NI matches, so how might that deter Gibson or any other Nationalist?
In order to have to avoid playing GSTQ at Ravenhill, as previous protocol demanded, the IRFU deemed the game to be an away fixture.
Belfast Newsletter 21/08/06
"Confirming that Phil coulter’s Ireland’s Call will be played pre-match at Ravenhill and not God Save The Queen, an IRFU Ulster branch spokeswoman said that it was a matter of policy.
“When Ireland play in Dublin, the Irish national anthem plus Ireland’s Call are played but, when the team play outside Ireland, wherever that might be, only Ireland’s Call is played” she said. “So this is not out of the norm”.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Well, I and many others will be continuing to try and convince enough Northern Ireland supporters of it's merits.I think that would be a very positive move - but can you imagine trying to convince the GAA, or some of the more extreme NI supporters.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
It certainly didn't deter Sammy Clingan, my mate got his autograph and it was signed sammy clingan 32
Great to see Sammy give 100% for the six tho, isn't it?It certainly didn't deter Sammy Clingan, my mate got his autograph and it was signed sammy clingan 32
Smashing bloke by the way.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
In order to have to avoid playing GSTQ at Ravenhill, as previous protocol demanded, the IRFU deemed the game to be an away fixture.
Belfast Newsletter 21/08/06
"Confirming that Phil coulter’s Ireland’s Call will be played pre-match at Ravenhill and not God Save The Queen, an IRFU Ulster branch spokeswoman said that it was a matter of policy.
“When Ireland play in Dublin, the Irish national anthem plus Ireland’s Call are played but, when the team play outside Ireland, wherever that might be, only Ireland’s Call is played” she said. “So this is not out of the norm”.
this thread is fantastic. Going round in lots circles and going nowhere fast but highly enjoyable. How I see it? Gibson is Irish, wanted to play for us and has at last been given that opportunity. Good luck to Norhern Ireland in the Euro's, I hope you qualify. If rugby fans can get on why not football fans?
"If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.
You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
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The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
If that's how Gibson sees it, fine. I was asked what I would do if offered the chance to represent the ROI and merely stated that I would certainly consider it, but might be concerned that I might be taking the place of someone who was much more committed to them than I.
The fact that I might be a better player than the player I was keeping out is not the be-all and end-all of it for me, since I consider representing ones country to be about more than just the "best" players playing for the "best" team.
Were I given a straight choice between NI and the ROI, or England, or Brazil for that matter, I would choose NI every single time, irrespective of the fact that two of those teams offer a better chance of winning cups and medals etc.
Again, are you asking me? If so, Lopez was referring to a banner (presumably on the OWC home page?) which I never even saw. That is because instead of my typing in the website's full title when i want to access it, which would take me to the home page, I click on a shortcut which takes me straight to the forum section.
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