Celtic Discussion

[Casegrande]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Ireland taking over the Premiership.

Ireland?

I thought this thread was about the British club Glasgow Celtic?

[eoinh]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Wouldn't it be great? Week in week out seeing the Tricolour draped in the away ends of Anfield, Old Trafford and Highbury. Ireland taking over the Premiership. I like it....

actually silvio as scottish clubs no longer win things in europe instead of your idea of dublin clubs joining up a far better idea would be for all scottish teams to join up and and join the english premiership. who knows they might make mid-table respectibility.

they could be called North Britain AFC.

it wouldnt insult rangers as they would join england
and celtic wouldnt be insulted either as the Britons were a celtic people.

[Paddy Ramone]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Wouldn't it be great? Week in week out seeing the Tricolour draped in the away ends of Anfield, Old Trafford and Highbury. Ireland taking over the Premiership. I like it....

You do already see tricolours at those grounds because of the huge Irish support those clubs attract. I wonder if would we see an end to the affinity between Celtic and Liverpool fans.

I always thought that was a bit odd, since Liverpool were founded by an Orangeman. Even Johnny "Mad Dog" Adair the Loyalist terrorist is a Liverpool fan. Some say KOP stands for "King Over Pope". I'd say if the ever the Old Firm enter the premiership it would increase sectarian tensions in Liverpool, which has a large Orange population as well as a large Catholic population. I don't think the scousers would want that.

[NigeSausagepump]

Originally posted by eoinh
i wish Celtic luck in their campaign to join the premiership.

I wish Celtic luck in their campaign to join the 21st century.

[wws]

[Casegrande]

Originally posted by NigeSausagepump
I wish Celtic luck in their campaign to join the 21st century.

Heeeeere comes Silvio!

[Paddy Ramone]

I don't see why the old firm want to join the premiership so much. They're gauranteed a European place each as it is. They'd have to compete with Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea for European places. There is a possibility that they could even be relegated, even Man Utd were relegated from the top division in the 1970's.

Also Celtic are bound to attract the attentions of the BNP element. Could you also imagine the reaction against Celtic fans if there was a Continuity IRA or Real IRA terrorist atrocity in England. No the English, if they have any sense do not want the old firm.

[Paddy Ramone]

I'm a traditionalist at heart and I think it would devalue the Scottish Premier League if the Old Firm were to leave. I know most Hibees and other Scottish fans want to see the back of the Old Firm but I think they're wrong. The champions of the Scottish Premier League should be the best team based in Scotland.

Also now that football is becoming respectable in England I don't think they want Old Firm bigotry stirring up hooliganism again.

[Jam]

most patriotic Scots can't stand the Auld Firm and no wonder - they discourage Scots playing in their teams, they have no loyalty to Scotland judging by their naked ambitions to paly in the Premiership, they go about sectarianism and republican/loyalist ambitions of a selection of people in another country whitst paying no interest to the national ambitions of their own country (Scotland) and in general they are an embarrassment to Scotland.

The extreme loyalist Rangers fans are the scum of the earth while many Celtic fans are clones of each other. What kind of fitba team has its roots in religion (or more accurately a pathetic, romantic identity based around religion).

In Scotland nearly all of the Catholics, regardless of where they are from, support Celtic. What a lot of boring clones.

Am I bigot? Well I'm from Catholic stock myself - just opened my eyes to see that firstly I'm not from Glasgow and secondly I'm Scottish.

Silvio Dante - are you serious aboot the lassie singing that song? phucks sake...

[Paddy Ramone]

Originally posted by Jam
most patriotic Scots can't stand the Auld Firm and no wonder - they discourage Scots playing in their teams, they have no loyalty to Scotland judging by their naked ambitions to paly in the Premiership, they go about sectarianism and republican/loyalist ambitions of a selection of people in another country whitst paying no interest to the national ambitions of their own country (Scotland) and in general they are an embarrassment to Scotland

The extreme loyalist Rangers fans are the scum of the earth while many Celtic fans are clones of each other. What kind of fitba team has its roots in religion (or more accurately a pathetic, romantic identity based around religion).

In Scotland nearly all of the Catholics, regardless of where they are from, support Celtic. What a lot of boring clones.

Am I bigot? Well I'm from Catholic stock myself - just opened my eyes to see that firstly I'm not from Glasgow and secondly I'm Scottish.

Silvio Dante - are you serious aboot the lassie singing that song? phucks sake...

I agree with you, many Old Firm fans are the scum of the earth. All the more reason why the English won't have them and the Scots want to get rid of the them. Maybe they should move to Rockall.

I think you are wrong when you say all the Catholics in Scotland support Celtic. The Hibees still attract a high percentage of Catholics in the east of Scotland because of their origins but they are losing them to Celtic. Probably 90% of the Catholics in Scotland support Celtic. Even the Gaelic speaking Outer Hebrides are divided between the Old Firm with the Catholic islands Barra and South Uist supporting Celtic and the Protestant islands Lewis, Harris and North Uist supporting Rangers. Seems there's nowhere in Scotland people can escape Old Firm bigotry.

You are also right about both clubs being mainly anti-Scottish. I read that Celtic chairman in the 1950's even called for the Scotland national team to be scrapped and replaced by a Great Britain team. Celtic are just as much pro-British as Rangers.

[Jam]

Hibees are fairly representative and don't divide on sectarian grounds really by much. I wouldn't say they get much of the non-Celtic Catholic support any more than any other club (other than Rangers obviously and maybe to a very small extent Hearts). I'm from Fife and Fife Catholics who dinnae support Celtic support the mighty Dunfermline Athetic of course - who else?

Yeah I know about South Uist and barra etc but they are very strange places - I was there last yr - like being on the moon min!!!

I also don't want them to go to Ingerland - what next a Br*t national team - phucks sake - being part technically of Britain is bad enough due to my treacherous north-Br*t comrades at election time - but that would be awful. Just wish folk in Scotland would support their ain team to create more level playing field than jump on the bandwagon of the gruesome twosome.

makes it worse that our major sporting representatives on the european stage have this outdated sectarian baggage.

[petef]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante

Long may it last. If that Irish girl knew that Johnny Mad Dog Adair and his UFF mates used Simlpy the Best as their slogan she shouldn't have sung it....

Kind of sums up your train of thought, disgraceful and extremely naive comment.

[Jam]

I heard Hitler's favourite song was the Fields of Athenry - better not sing that one then

[petef]

Next you'll be telling me Johnny Adair is receiving field instructions from Tina Turner.

[tiktok]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Do you know anything of the actions of Mad Dog, his mate in Portadown the Late Billy 'King Rat' Wright from the LVF and the rest of the UFF organisation?

.....so because of that an irish girl shouldn't sing a Tina Turner song. that doesn't make any sense Silvio.

[dulpit]

Originally posted by Jam
I heard Hitler's favourite song was the Fields of Athenry - better not sing that one then

Hate to be a bully but that song was written in the 70s (a few years after adolf killed himself....) sorry.....
And now on the main topic of this thread:

Who cares who supports who in Scotland. Nothing against the players but the Scottish league is a very poor 1. Besides Celtic & Rangers (who would both struggle) none of the teams would make it in the Premiership in England. I presume the whole thing is about this Celtic being the catholic team and Rangers the protestant one (sorry but i didn't read the whole thing, the title just caught my eye). That is total bull.... The IRA latched onto the whole Celtic thing a few years back without Celtic's endorsment.... Myself, I don' get why they're so popular here. They're not a great team, they have only a few Irish players... If ye want to support a club just because of their Irish connections, don't forget Panakanaithos (??) they were formed by an Irish priest which is why they wear green and have a shamrock (or clover) on their crest.

There, rant over

[Mayo_Bhoy]

don't forget Panakanaithos (??) they were formed by an Irish priest which is why they wear green and have a shamrock (or clover) on their crest.

Wrong, though it's a common misconception. In 1918 Panathinaikos chose the shamrock - or trifylli as it's known in Greece - as their emblem on the suggestion of Mihalis Papazoglou, an athlete from Constantinople who played for Chalkidona, and Chalkidona had the same symbol. The idea was accepted by Panathinaikos's council and confirmed as the team's official badge.

As for the colour of the kit, again there's no overtly Irish connection. Green being the colour of the trifylli no doubt had something to do with it, but the choice of kit seems to be partly a practical one too. Until green became the team's official colour, most players turned up and played in different coloured outfits.

[osgood was good]

The reason irish league grounds are half empty is because the standard is awful , and it has no appeal to anybody who loves to watch good football.

Ossie

[sadloserkid]

Originally posted by osgood was good
The reason irish league grounds are half empty is because the standard is awful

I agree, Northern Irish football is just plain bad!

[Scotsman]

Some of you guys spout nonsense - I mean really.

To generalise every Celtic fan and every Rangers fan is a non-starter.

I mean I could easily generalise all Irish (north and south).

My wife was in Dublin when she was single and being chatted up by an Irishman.

He asked her is she was protestant and when she replied yes he waked away.

I was called a Scottish b*s*ard by 2 Irish guys because I wore a Saltire and they were shouting f*ck the Church Of Scotland.

I have also known Scottish Catholics getting a kicking off Belfast guys/protestants for wearing Celtic tops.

The Belfast guys were spouting unionist crap.

Yes there are some Celtic fans and Rangers fans who act daft but that's the same everywhere.

I would not condemn Scotland for this - Scotland does need to rid itself of this but other Countries have their problems as well - most have short memories!!!

And as for Fergus McCann I'm sure he spoke with an Irish accent.