Celtic Discussion

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i have a soft spot for celtic, my dad used to support them (being from tralee he had no access to LOI football, although he liked to keep an eye on how shamrock rovers were doing), i have no problem with irish people (or for that matter english, welsh, german or chinese people) supporting celtic or any other foreign club. i certainly don't hate the clubs themselves.

what i do have a problem with is people who exclusively support a foreign team telling me i'm mad for being a city fan because the standard is poor, especially so when they invariably turn out not to know the first thing about irish soccer. his isn't neccessarily the fault of the people involved. There are huge tracts of this country where you do not have a LOI team, and the media, our own included, bombard the populace with foreign matches and news, usually eclipsing our own league.

i have a huge problem with irish people hating rangers and their players (booing reyna at landsdowne was pathetic), i don't particularly like the sectarian element in scottish soccer and recognise that many rangers fans are *****s. But in ireland you do not have to walk into work on the monday after an old firm derby and have your face rubbed in a loss by a rangers fan, so the paranoia and hatred is unjustified.

the main problem the average irish person has with the idiot celtic fans is their celebration of the perceived link between celtic fc and irish nationalism, the ra chants (which happen at city games too) and english/proitestant hating that goes with it disgusts us. celtic themselves are trying to distance themselves from this, it's already cut short neil lennon's international career.

but i've never seen so many idiot celtic fans than in the shed on the day city played celtic in a preseason friendly.

DJ, no one should tell you who to support, that's daft, but why do you pay so much attention to these idiots that you've wound up hating an entire club??

[Soko]

Originally posted by Scotsman

Is it not Irish rebel tunes they sing!!

This surely indicates bigotry in Ireland.

People have short memories!!

Please, do not ever post here again you absolute idiot. You will have no memory after I beat his brains out with an iron bar.


I have never seen a more offensive message posted yet and I cannnot believe no one has picked up on it.


Irish rebel songs refer to a period in OUR history where we fought to establish ourselves independent from BRITAIN (you). I dont think bigotry was a big issue back then, Scottish people invoked that when they moved to Ulster in their droves.


I personally like Celtic but do not have any time for their Irish supporters who do not support the Eircom League. Likewise with fans of the Premiership. But to have to listen to a Scottish fool whose apparent ignorance of Irich culture and History is an insult, drives me crazy.


You do not know what you are talking about and please stop trying to be Irish. Scotland is not that bad.

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Scaughts Man ..... You are at it again i see, ya fool !!

[dahamsta]

Originally posted by Soko
Please, do not ever post here again you absolute idiot. You will have no memory after I beat his brains out with an iron bar.

I have never seen a more offensive message posted yet and I cannnot believe no one has picked up on it.

Pot. Kettle. Three strikes. You're out. See you in a week.

Scotsman, it's generally believed that people who attempt suicide by cop aren't very clever.

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[Colm]

Hate is such a strong word, lets just say I don't really like Celtic and in particular I don't like Irish people supporting Celtic.
The threads on this site alone over the past few weeks show that, despite the media perception, there are a sizeable number of Irish people who have no interest in Glasgow Celtic.

Anyway, some of the Glasgow Celtic supporters in PJ Turners last night were rather distressed when an Orange march passed through the pub.

[max power]

hate is such a strong word, yes it is and its what i wanted to say, i want to start a new club ABC anyone but celtic, rangers, hibs, kilmarnock anyone, i don't care who.
i'll say it once more, i hate celtic and thats how i feel and i'm very happy with the fact they won nothing this season

[Jam]

Well I'm a Dunfermline supporter but I like Celtic a bit - certainly more than Rangers - and I certainyl support them in Europe - don't see anything strange about that..............because I'm Scottish.

I have to say I do find the huge numbers of Irish supporters following Celtic and Liverpool/Man U a bit strange but it's to each individual. I can understand supporters of Eircom sides getting a bit aggrieved at their fellow Irish people fleein ower the water each week to support these teams.

In terms of their history you can understand why it happened as while technically Celtic in particular is a Scottish team, it clearly has links to Irish culture.

Interestingly there is a parallel to this in Scotland. A lot of supporters of small teams are hostile to Scottish, yet non-Glaswegian supporters of the Old Firm teams as they see them as glory hunters which basically makes our league crap - in that two teams have all the cash - similar to the cashstrapped Irish league. I know the Scottish league has mair money than your league but that's only in the hands of the 'gruesome twosome'.

In fact the supporters of the small teams make up the majority of Scotland fans in the 'Tartan Army' - go to any Rangers message board and you'll find threads calling us Tartan tossers - Scottish Celtic fans are a mixed bag - most of them support Scotland but a minority actually follow your national team - calling us Tartan Army huns!!!! what?!!!??

Out of interest are the supporters of the Irish national team - are they similar to the supporters of Scotland in that they support the smaller teams - or in your case teams from the Eircom league?

Get Noel Hunt in yer national team - the boys a stormer!!!

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jam that was an excellent post, we finally have one of our own in the national set up, glen crowe, and he got a great reception when he came on against norway. i follow thw national team but i don't like seeing players with foreign accents playering for us, except if they were born in Ireland and then moved abroad, i just want an irish team with irish players.

i think the reason a lot of the tartan army are from smaller teams is because they are real supporters and not glory hunters who supporters who follow the larger teams because they win trophys.

and if an irish team were doing well in europe i would suport them as you get behind your own when they need support as was seen when we played fc lovech, a lot of supporters came from other clubs, espcially cork city and i for one really thought that was a nice gusture.

[Jam]

It sounds to me then that you don't really hate Celtic as a club more the fact that so many Irish folk travel over there to watch them, which detracts from the Irish league as revenue etc is going elsewhere.

Same reason why small teams in Scotland don't like non-Glaswegians supporting Celtic/Rangers.

Yes the fans of the small teams tend to be the 'real fans' if you know what I mean and we are the ones who have sorted out Scotland's reputation in the world

In the 70s Rangers fans were the backbone of the Scotland games and there were occasions when so-called Scotland fans (hun bigots basically) would boo Celtic players playing for Scotland which might explain some Scottish Celtic fans ambivalence towards our national team. Thankfully these shameful days are a thing of the past and Celtic fans are returning back to the national team in numbers

I too support all Scottish teams in Europe. And I want a Scottish team with Scottish players. Get the passion back - I think that's what you boys need tae with your team. And if it means missing a tournament or two to rebuild so be it.

[max power]

no i hate celtic and the way there fans behave, saying your irish you must support celtic. people can support whom ever they wish but don't tell me who to support and don't run me down for supporting an irish team when they don't even support one themself.

[Jam]

DJ, I don't think you should support them and I think if ye are gaunnae support a team it should be your own one. As we say:

"yer hame team is yer ain team"

But what can ye dae aboot it with tens of thousands fleein ower each week tae follow Celtic.....and Rangers (from the north)?

1 thing I have noticed is that at Celtic games some folk wear Ireland tops and at Ireland games some folk wear Celtic tops - what's all that about?

Also I think it's sad that when Celtic do pre-season friendlies in Ireland maist of the 'home fans' appear to be supporting Celtic.

[max power]

theygo on this mad republican rant about celtic being irish blah blah blah,

fact celtic are a scotish team and were never irish and never will be.

they say celtic are irish and that supporting celtic is like supporting the irish team you must do it, i wear my longofrd jersey to international matchs, they are an irish team after all nd it shows my support for the league.


if they want to go off glory hunting every second weekend away with them, i don't really care just don't tell me i should be going with them, i'm happy in flancare park, it means more to me that any other ground on the planet ever could

[noby]

Originally posted by the dj
no i hate celtic and the way there fans behave

you still don't seem to get it, dj. Celtic can't control what their irish supporters say to you, but you still say you hate the club.
What's wrong with being indifferent to the club, and hating these people that annoy you so much?
or better still, just be indifferent to both.

[max power]

i feel that way and it won't change, if someone says to me do you support celtic i say no and then they say you must be a rangers supporter then, well actually i don't give a ***** about either of them, in a way i am indifferent i just can't abide the attitude of a lot of them preaching that i SHOULD support celtic.

should i follow the boston celtics or olympicios (spelled wrong0 because they have a shamrock in their crest, i think no is the answer so why SHOULD i follow celtic.

i'va answered myself enough times on this subject and won't be doing so again unless it is approched from a new angle.

[noby]

I do see your point, but i would differenciate between not supporting celtic (or whoever) and hating them. Why waste your energy on them at all?

btw panathaniakos have the shamrock

[max power]

thanks i knew it was one of them, i hate them and enojy seeing the look on the fans face when they loose, i take pleasure in it, i know that is an awful thing to do but it goes some way to canceling out all the bull***** talking from them.

weird logic but my logic

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Originally posted by the dj
i hate them and enojy seeing the look on the fans face when they loose, i take pleasure in it, i know that is an awful thing to do but it goes some way to canceling out all the bull***** talking from them.

weird logic but my logic

I feel the very same very, my stomach turns when i have to pass pubs here and see all the shirts with the hoops. I hate every single one of them. If only they could leave and never come back.

[patsh]

Originally posted by the dj
fact celtic are a scotish team and were never irish and never will be.

Well thats actually wrong.
The club was set up by Irish emigrants, and featured mostly Irish people for a good while, and there has always been an Irish presence at the club. The whole point of founding the club was to serve as a focal point for the ex-pat Irish in Glasgow, of which there were/are quite a few, and not as a Catholic club, as is often believed.
I still can't see why you would hate a club, because of the behaviour of their Irish supporters.
By that logic you must hate Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Leeds etc etc

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Originally posted by oddboy
Well thats actually wrong.
The club was set up by Irish emigrants, and featured mostly Irish people for a good while, and there has always been an Irish presence at the club. The whole point of founding the club was to serve as a focal point for the ex-pat Irish in Glasgow, of which there were/are quite a few, and not as a Catholic club, as is often believed.

Oddboy ......... I think that is actually wrong ........ Sell-Thick were set up by St. Vincent dePaul from what i hear.

TRhe Irish club for the ex-pat was actually Hibs, and it was when Hibs were not doing well that the Irish players then moved to Sell-Thick to get more money.

Sell-Thick then capitalised on the Oirish thing to sell more shirts etc.

Is it true that Sell-Thick are actually telling cobblers to cash in on any fool willing to believe it.

[Scotsman]

This is a post to the guy who wanted to beat my brains out - Get a grip you bananna!!

If you read my post and the reason why I posted it you would have seen there was nothing derogative meant by it!!

I was merely pointing out it was Irish rebel tunes - People were slating Scotland for bigotry - In particular Celtic.

I was advising that Scotland and Ireland have a bigoted element.

If you don't like that fact - Then tough isn't it.

As for beating my brains out - I need to have some first!!