Celtic Discussion

[lopez]

Well, that just leaves me wondering has the anti-celtic contingent on foot.ie grown, or have those EL fans who might argue in Celtic's favour grown sick of the condescension and insults and backed away from the debate.

Lopez, read my post, I was playing the diplomat, if that makes me a muppet, grand boy, I've better things to be doing than trading insults with you.

Insults? Hmmm. No I was wondering what exactly is taught in Irish schools about emigration. I get the impression that you think that my 'obsession' with the lack of any teaching on this subject is all in the mind. Perhaps you could enlighten me as A Arse, Colm, and Conor's mate Neil, don't seem to want 'to trade insults' either.

What p*sses me off is not being anti-Celtic. I've a minimal interest in the club which Davros, Sylvo and others well know. While being accused of doing the work the muppets mentioned above can't be ars*d to do, I'll list my probs with the club.

1. Many of their fans feel that the club is on par with the National team.

2. Many of their Scottish fans are one minute weekend provos, the next supporting Scotland.

3. The religious bigotry I've witnessed at the games I attended in the eighties.

4. Supporting Celtic against an Irish club side you'd otherwise support.

5. Going every week/fortnight to watch a club in a cr*p league while claiming the league back home - who recent history of games between clubs of both leagues suggests is more than a match for - is cr*p.

6. Banging on about Rangers' years of religious discrimination while playing against the said team and taking up ticket allocations.

....oh yes and the fact that every Celtic song must be sung with a Gorbals accent. Had to put up with that behind me in Basel with the only redeeming feature was that one of the songsters' voice broke (and b*llocks no doubt dropped) halfway through the game rendering him incapable of continuing.

What p*sses me off is that the people who slag off Celtic - a club founded by an Irishman - would have no qualms about following other foreign clubs that have absolutely no connection with either themselves or Ireland except that in AD such and such, they had an Irish player, and then insult anyone Irish that was born outside the 26C. Personally I think these people have real issues with emmigrants and their offspring...a sort of jealousy, but I'll leave that to Freud, or ignorance. Hence the question of education.

[lopez]

Sorry Dav, much as there is the temptation to bring in these eejits' birthplace, most people from Cork are fine and remember mi suegra lives in West Cork and I've had no trouble out there other than my p*ss poor Irish getting me a whiskey in the pub when I wanted a mineral water.

This is a countrywide problem. A sad symptom of a succession of governments - some headed and containing plastics - in denial. The results are for all to see on this thread.

[WeAreRovers]

[B]

Yeah spot on WAR .... it was no where near as good asd it usually is !! .... you sad sad man. Oh yeah its normally a paradise beyond you're wildest dreams ... WAR didn't you pick the short straw. I bet you are crippled with bitterness that you picked the wrong game.

shugk1 .... come off the stage ... did you just register to join in this thread. YOU muppet.

Is that directed at me or shugk1? I said I was slightly disappointed but I had a great day out. I'm not the world's biggest Celtic supporter but unlike you I don't carry around a huge chip on my shoulder about it.

KOH

[liam88]

Lot of rubbish flying round here
Tiktok you talk a lot of sense. People should not neglect their El side and when this happens it is really sad-choice between watching Celtic or Cobh in Europe I'd be at the Jungle
Although I love Celtic I think that everyone should support their local side as well. I have strong family connections IN Ramblers and I support them through and through.
I also support Celtic and don't like to see insults against them (I get enough of this in England).
I do appreciate where lots of the anti-Celtic feelings come from and I think incidents such as people arriving for Celtic's match but not City's European match are very sad
I don't see this as a reason to hate Celtic but obviously some people do and this isn't going to change.
Of course City fans should try visting the Jungle now and then to watch the best Cork team in action

[shugk1]

Is that directed at me or shugk1? I said I was slightly disappointed but I had a great day out. I'm not the world's biggest Celtic supporter but unlike you I don't carry around a huge chip on my shoulder about it.

KOH

Can someone please explain muppet, is it someone who overlooks their local EL side to support Celtic or all Celtic supporters. I hope I'm not one I'm born'n'bred in glasgow's eastend. (the bright side of town)

[lopez]

Can someone please explain muppet, is it someone who overlooks their local EL side to support Celtic or all Celtic supporters. I hope I'm not one I'm born'n'bred in glasgow's eastend. (the bright side of town)

Don't know about Celtic fans or their detractors but Big Bird, Ernie, Kermit and Gonzo to me are the f*ckwits that come on here and make some snide comment about Irish people born abroad which they can't begin to back up and then crawl back under their ManU quilt cover because they can't explain to someone like me, how much of their history lessons at school were given over to emigration. You know who you are, muppets? How's about some f*cking answers!

[lopez]

Ummmm, who are you talking about?

Not you, but if you want to stick in your nose and be spokesman for the planky gang then be my guest.

[Plastic Paddy]

Ummmm, who are you talking about?

We've had run-ins with at least one of them Conor, as previously discussed. I'm still waiting - weeks later - for him to answer questions I posed then. He can't, but if he thinks I've forgotten, he's another thing coming.

Lopez - you know yourself, even had emigration been on the history curriculum at ard scoil, it would have been wasted on these narrow-minded eejits. End of story.

PP

[lopez]

Lopez - you know yourself, even had emigration been on the history curriculum at ard scoil, it would have been wasted on these narrow-minded eejits. End of story.

True, but then they wouldn't be able to use that as an excuse for their ignorance. Thanks for the tip-off, PP. I won't be holding my breath for an answer then.

[liam88]

I think the most important thing to remember about the Greenwash is that we are Champions, Under 21 Champions and Under 19 Champions.
Rangers have not one a single trophy at any level
That's worth partying about

[tiktok]

Don't know about Celtic fans or their detractors but Big Bird, Ernie, Kermit and Gonzo to me are the f*ckwits that come on here and make some snide comment about Irish people born abroad which they can't begin to back up and then crawl back under their ManU quilt cover because they can't explain to someone like me, how much of their history lessons at school were given over to emigration. You know who you are, muppets? How's about some f*cking answers!

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes. I'll be honest Lopez and PP, I don't know what you've got against me, or where it started, but If you quote me where on here I made ANY snide comment about an Irish person born abroad I'll gladly detail all the History lessons I had right through school.

I'm sure you'll be surprised that I think there are probably points about the Irish education system on which we'd agree but as I said earlier, I've better things to do than trade insults, and at the moment, the 'muppet', 'eejit' and 'planky gang' comments (which IMO I've done little to warrant) are only serving to annoy me.

[Plastic Paddy]

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes. I'll be honest Lopez and PP, I don't know what you've got against me, or where it started, but If you quote me where on here I made ANY snide comment about an Irish person born abroad I'll gladly detail all the History lessons I had right through school.

I wasn't referring to you at all, tiktok, and I'm sorry that it comes across as such. We've always enjoyed good banter as far as I can recall. My issues are with a wind-up merchant from Galway. I think he knows who he is.

PP

[lopez]

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes...

Oddly it isn't. You decide to have a pop about my dig at the lack of education about emigration in Irish schools and I took exception. Wrongfully I added 'the other muppets' which I admit suggests that they you are in the same league as the muppets. For that I apologise, not because I'm taking it back, but because I didn't mean to infer the insult in the first place.

The people I'm on about within this thread are A Face and Colm. You can also add Carnstein, Dodge, Brendy Eire and a couple of others to the list. Parochial ignoramuses who need to see a bit more of the world. At least with A Face, if his DOB is true, he has yet to come to an age where he will learn about Irish history in depth. Perhaps when he does, he'll ask about emigration. Don't know if the others have the same excuse.

In Glasgow, the emigration experience has been marred by discrimination on par with what happened during the Stormont years of NI (I think we'll agree that if the likes of David Trimble and David Ervine are willing to admit this happened, it happened). The experience in London for instance, both in the 19C and the 1950s of the 'No Dogs' signs, was nowhere near as bad. We're not talking about a more than average quota of dodgy refereeing decisions against the Irish community's football team. We're talking discrimination in work, health and housing: Serious matters. Perhaps with this backdrop it is no wonder, even after 5 generations, many of Glasgow's Catholics are less than keen on giving their allegiance to the country of their birth.

[shugk1]

Could anybody please tell me what the problem is with my team. Over the past couple of months while being on the forum I have sensed an anti or maybe not so much of an anti but ****ed off of Celtic feel. Could anybody explain. By the way i'm Scottish and a Glaswegian .

[brendy_éire]

Again.

We're stick of idiotic Irish football 'fans' claiming that Celtic are Irish. If you're from Glasgow, fair enough, support Celtic. But it doesn't make sense for Irish people to support a Scottish club over their own local club.

[Pat O' Banton]

Could anybody please tell me what the problem is with my team. Over the past couple of months while being on the forum I have sensed an anti or maybe not so much of an anti but ****ed off of Celtic feel. Could anybody explain. By the way i'm Scottish and a Glaswegian .

Oh gawd, no offence Shugk1 but not this again.

Before this developes any further eL fans believe that Celtic fans should watch domestic Irish football instead of sitting in a pub and watching football on TV.

Celtic fans believe that the club has a strong Irish Identity and have every right to support the Bhoys.

Some eL fans believe that many Irish Celts are Neds, Celtic fans believe that eL fans are snobbish.

I think that, that pretty much sums up the arguement and if it starts again it will only go over old ground and new insults.

While I'm at it I save a few other posts;

Roy Keane is a Judas who deserted Ireland. He's a w@nker

No Roy Keane is a genius and Irend need him you don't know the first thing about football. McCarthy's the real w@nker.

McCarthy did a good job and look how far we got in the World Cup, despite that tw@t Keane trying to ruin everything.

No Saipan was all McCarthy's fault etc....

I think that thats covered everything.

[shugk1]

Again.

We're stick of idiotic Irish football 'fans' claiming that Celtic are Irish. If you're from Glasgow, fair enough, support Celtic. But it doesn't make sense for Irish people to support a Scottish club over their own local club.

Does that go for Irish fan's supporting an english club.

[southside bohs]

To sum it up in a few words

Celtic are scottish, the scottish FA profit from them, I have no problem with celtic fans just as long as they don't pipe this 'you should be supporting celtic cause their irish and if you dont your a prod' ****.

I support bohs and liverpool and have no interest in celtic. Im irish and bohs are my irish team, liverpool have done just as much for the irish and have produced more irish internationals.

does this make me a ****** for not supporting them? NO!

[shugk1]

I hope this does'nt go to the rubbish, I want this to be an explanation to a Scottish Celt and not an argument between Irish . It just seems quite sad the way the Celtic are spoke of from some quarters of the country. I have no desire to be Irish but like many others in this city I have been brought up to never forget who you are and what you are.

[brendy_éire]

Does that go for Irish fan's supporting an english club.

Yes.

B_E,Know DC fans who support the Tims & DC avidly......who they'd support If they played each other is anyone's guess...though imagine could back the team most likely to progress in that competition?

Derry City, and all eL clubs, are in direct competition with Celtic for fans. IMO, no eL fan should support a foreign club. Supporting a foreign club only raises it's profile in Ireland and hurts the eL.

Also,without being pedantic....what happens if they come from the Co.of Derry.....a big old area....would you expect them to follow DC or someone else,in Ireland or elsewhere?

Whatever team's closest. I'd rather see a County Derry person supporting Coleraine or Limavady than a foreign team.