Celtic Discussion

[NY Hoop]

hahahah the old 'Real fan' argument. Once again an EL fan enlightens me as to what a REAL fan is, oh what would we do without you.

Be a barstooler and go down to a pub to cheer on a foreign team?!

KOH

[Junior]

Be a barstooler and go down to a pub to cheer on a foreign team?!

KOH

sorry to ruin your theory - but I happily spend large amounts of my hard earned cash and time supporting Celtic and Ireland. However I tend to refrain from going on ego trips telling the world they are 'thick', 'barstoolers' ' not a REAL fan' etc. look at me I support my local team yadda yadda yadda........


Blue Peter badge for that man - woo hoo

[Junior]

You're quite right, the commitment shown by people going to the pub to watch English teams never fails to inspire me and I only wish I could manage the same level fandom as them.

So only if you support an EL team would you know this? What about the coach and plane loads of supporters who regularly make the trip to glasgow to support their team - are these REAL fans? I guess not, because they are supporting a foreign club yadda yadda yadda

[Gary]

What you are basically suggesting is that Irish Celtic fans support them for the sole reason of it being "cool" to do so or because of religion.
A very uneducated generalisation IMO. Just because you're not a Celtic supporter yourself and can't understand it doesn't mean you should pidgeonhole people who are.

Walk into Tom Lynchs on Barracka, and you will see that my 'generalization' uis quite accurate. IRA tattoos with Celtic jersies. Great fashion statement there.

Okay, I do take the point that a guy can be a genuine GCFC fan, while living abroad.

I don't understand how you support Cork City but I don't question it or have a problem with it

Wha???

[NY Hoop]

Er,the Shams.are your own team ....met many Rovers fans' over the years who are happy with this title......I would challenge anyone's ignorance of wider Irish culture,inc.those natives who take on the notion that the EL is worthless*

* Largely in my experience,assuming they are soccer fans,many 'barstoolers' perceive the EL as being dull & skilless.....probably as their senses have been dulled by the extensive diet of TV footy currently available.Would dispute this with them,but is undoubtedly of a lower level than most CL/EPL/SPL games....but happy to see the concept of the domestic game progress.
A little less paranoia about Celtic & foreign clubs from EL fans,though would not go amiss ! if yer really bothered about the 'enemy within',save yer energy for the G.A.A. ,though they're entitled to'laugh' @ you!

Only ignoramus' call us shams. Dont know who these ROVERS' fans are that are happy with that title.

I'm not paranoid. Ultimately people will do what they want. Dont take any notice of barstoolers generally. Their senses cant be dulled. They are already brain dead. Why do you think they all follow manure or liverpool?!!They know about as much about the game as the gum on my shoe. If andy gray said drink paint they would do it

Undoubtedly the EL is a lower level than the CL and the EPL but on a par with the SPL, bar the big 2 of course.

And I have absolutely no problem with the GAA.


KOH

[Gary]

Only ignoramus' call us shams.

I believe the term is Ignoramii!!!

[drinkfeckarse]

I don't understand how you support Cork City but I don't question it or have a problem with it

Wha??? [/QUOTE]

Just joking Gary, should've put "why you support" instead of "how you support" and it would've came across a bit better.

Basically, each to their own I suppose is the moral of the story!!

[NY Hoop]

I believe the term is Ignoramii!!!

LOL.

Now where's my blue peter badge yadda yadda yadda?!


KOH

[Slash/ED]

So what about the vast majority of Irish people that support e.g. Liverpool or Man Utd? Are they all mad too for supporting a team that they have no affinity with?

If anything it's understandable that so many Irish people support Celtic, the first thing that drew me to them was whenever I saw them on telly when I was young, I always saw loads of Irish flags at the games. That is naturally going to please any young Irish man who loves their country. You don't see too many of them flying about in the Premiership so what draws people to support them?

I personally don't give a sh!te about the argument about whether they are an "Irish" or "Scottish" club, all I know is that any club that celebrates it's links to Ireland is ok in my book.

If that makes people think that I jumped on the proverbial "bandwagon", then look a bit closer to home and ask yourself why you support some Premiership team on the side.

The point is there's no difference between the Celtic fans and the EPL "barstoolers". I've no problem with people supporting foreign clubs, if you want to do that than that's fine, nobody is obliged to support anybody, but don't try and tell me some random foreign club is more "Irish" than another. They're all the same. You can fly all the Irish flags you want at CP and be formed by whoever you want, it doesn't change a thing. Now, I wont be daft enough to say that as a result of this celtic fans aren't "real" fans, all I'm saying is there's no difference between them and the rest of the people who follow foreign clubs.

Someone mentioned how Celtic have connections here due to the fact that so many Irish support Celtic. Well I'd say the most popular club over here is Man U, not Celtic, and at least nobody trys to claim anything about how "Irish" or not they are.

And to the person complaining about RTE showing the celtic game over the other CL games, get yourself Sky Watched Milan V Barca myself, absolutley cracking game. Two teams who simply have world class players all over and oddly enough the Italians actually left their own half at times in the match, wouldn't suprise me at all if thsoe two clubs contested the final if that's possible.

[drinkfeckarse]

The point is there's no difference between the Celtic fans and the EPL "barstoolers". .

I think you'll find there's no difference between the Celtic barstoolers and EPL barstoolers not the Celtic fans Slash. That was my point about every Celtic fan being pidgeonholed with the same stigma.