Celtic Discussion

**tiktok** · 13/05/2004, 7:29 AM

Originally Posted by lopez

Don't know about Celtic fans or their detractors but Big Bird, Ernie, Kermit and Gonzo to me are the f*ckwits that come on here and make some snide comment about Irish people born abroad which they can't begin to back up and then crawl back under their ManU quilt cover because they can't explain to someone like me, how much of their history lessons at school were given over to emigration. You know who you are, muppets? How's about some f*cking answers!

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes. I'll be honest Lopez and PP, I don't know what you've got against me, or where it started, but If you quote me where on here I made ANY snide comment about an Irish person born abroad I'll gladly detail all the History lessons I had right through school.

I'm sure you'll be surprised that I think there are probably points about the Irish education system on which we'd agree but as I said earlier, I've better things to do than trade insults, and at the moment, the 'muppet', 'eejit' and 'planky gang' comments (which IMO I've done little to warrant) are only serving to annoy me.

**Plastic Paddy** · 13/05/2004, 7:46 AM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes. I'll be honest Lopez and PP, I don't know what you've got against me, or where it started, but If you quote me where on here I made ANY snide comment about an Irish person born abroad I'll gladly detail all the History lessons I had right through school.

I wasn't referring to you at all, tiktok, and I'm sorry that it comes across as such. We've always enjoyed good banter as far as I can recall. My issues are with a wind-up merchant from Galway. I think he knows who he is.

PP

**lopez** · 13/05/2004, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I think this is more or less aimed squarely between my eyes...

Oddly it isn't. You decide to have a pop about my dig at the lack of education about emigration in Irish schools and I took exception. Wrongfully I added 'the other muppets' which I admit suggests that they you are in the same league as the muppets. For that I apologise, not because I'm taking it back, but because I didn't mean to infer the insult in the first place.

The people I'm on about within this thread are A Face and Colm. You can also add Carnstein, Dodge, Brendy Eire and a couple of others to the list. Parochial ignoramuses who need to see a bit more of the world. At least with A Face, if his DOB is true, he has yet to come to an age where he will learn about Irish history in depth. Perhaps when he does, he'll ask about emigration. Don't know if the others have the same excuse.

In Glasgow, the emigration experience has been marred by discrimination on par with what happened during the Stormont years of NI (I think we'll agree that if the likes of David Trimble and David Ervine are willing to admit this happened, it happened). The experience in London for instance, both in the 19C and the 1950s of the 'No Dogs' signs, was nowhere near as bad. We're not talking about a more than average quota of dodgy refereeing decisions against the Irish community's football team. We're talking discrimination in work, health and housing: Serious matters. Perhaps with this backdrop it is no wonder, even after 5 generations, many of Glasgow's Catholics are less than keen on giving their allegiance to the country of their birth.

**shugk1** · 18/06/2004, 9:54 PM

Could anybody please tell me what the problem is with my team. Over the past couple of months while being on the forum I have sensed an anti or maybe not so much of an anti but ****ed off of Celtic feel. Could anybody explain. By the way i'm Scottish and a Glaswegian .

**brendy_�ire** · 18/06/2004, 10:21 PM

Again.

We're stick of idiotic Irish football 'fans' claiming that Celtic are Irish. If you're from Glasgow, fair enough, support Celtic. But it doesn't make sense for Irish people to support a Scottish club over their own local club.

**Pat O' Banton** · 18/06/2004, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by shugk1

Could anybody please tell me what the problem is with my team. Over the past couple of months while being on the forum I have sensed an anti or maybe not so much of an anti but ****ed off of Celtic feel. Could anybody explain. By the way i'm Scottish and a Glaswegian .

Oh gawd, no offence Shugk1 but not this again.

Before this developes any further eL fans believe that Celtic fans should watch domestic Irish football instead of sitting in a pub and watching football on TV.

Celtic fans believe that the club has a strong Irish Identity and have every right to support the Bhoys.

Some eL fans believe that many Irish Celts are Neds, Celtic fans believe that eL fans are snobbish.

I think that, that pretty much sums up the arguement and if it starts again it will only go over old ground and new insults.

While I'm at it I save a few other posts;

Roy Keane is a Judas who deserted Ireland. He's a w@nker

No Roy Keane is a genius and Irend need him you don't know the first thing about football. McCarthy's the real w@nker.

McCarthy did a good job and look how far we got in the World Cup, despite that tw@t Keane trying to ruin everything.

No Saipan was all McCarthy's fault etc....

I think that thats covered everything.

**shugk1** · 18/06/2004, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Again.

We're stick of idiotic Irish football 'fans' claiming that Celtic are Irish. If you're from Glasgow, fair enough, support Celtic. But it doesn't make sense for Irish people to support a Scottish club over their own local club.

Does that go for Irish fan's supporting an english club.

**southside bohs** · 18/06/2004, 10:52 PM

To sum it up in a few words

Celtic are scottish, the scottish FA profit from them, I have no problem with celtic fans just as long as they don't pipe this 'you should be supporting celtic cause their irish and if you dont your a prod' ****.

I support bohs and liverpool and have no interest in celtic. Im irish and bohs are my irish team, liverpool have done just as much for the irish and have produced more irish internationals.

does this make me a ****** for not supporting them? NO!

**shugk1** · 18/06/2004, 11:02 PM

I hope this does'nt go to the rubbish, I want this to be an explanation to a Scottish Celt and not an argument between Irish . It just seems quite sad the way the Celtic are spoke of from some quarters of the country. I have no desire to be Irish but like many others in this city I have been brought up to never forget who you are and what you are.

**brendy_�ire** · 19/06/2004, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by shugk1

Does that go for Irish fan's supporting an english club.

Yes.

Originally Posted by davros

B_E,Know DC fans who support the Tims & DC avidly......who they'd support If they played each other is anyone's guess...though imagine could back the team most likely to progress in that competition?

Derry City, and all eL clubs, are in direct competition with Celtic for fans. IMO, no eL fan should support a foreign club. Supporting a foreign club only raises it's profile in Ireland and hurts the eL.

Originally Posted by davros

Also,without being pedantic....what happens if they come from the Co.of Derry.....a big old area....would you expect them to follow DC or someone else,in Ireland or elsewhere?

Whatever team's closest. I'd rather see a County Derry person supporting Coleraine or Limavady than a foreign team.