Celtic Discussion

**Plastic Paddy** · 08/01/2004, 6:20 AM

Originally posted by Conor74
That's football mania for you. It does funny, inexplicable things.

Ain't that the truth? I think even my bank manager has started looking out for Celtic results now... trips to Europe and all that need financing somehow! As far as he was concerned, Seville = nice loan for PP.

PP - Overdraft CSC

**RebelBhoy** · 08/01/2004, 11:57 AM

grand job gary, no hassle with your point of view. But just to let ya no Im always at the cross and go to parkhead whenever possible. I dont regard Celtic as a completely foreign club. I think its an identity. Founded by Irish for poor Irish Catholics in the eastend of Glasgow(who are still there) and fly the tricolur over earth they imported from Donegal. Incidentally the tricolour was presented to the club by De Valera when the old one became tattered and nobody in Scotland would make one for the club at the time out of anti Irishness.

The club has around 6-7,000 Irish based season ticket holders(unfortunately I have to make do with the waiting least), add to that a two or three more thousand who travel over on a single ticket, and add to that the irish ex-pats from England and Wales. Then the rest (well nearly) is made up of second and third genereation Irish from Parkhead, Gallowgate, Easterhouse, Coatbridge and East Kilbride (Obviously other areas of west scotland too though) who see Celtic as a way of expressing their Irishness. Im behind them all the way.

I have followed Celtic through the Ninetys which is basically all my life(cant remember being six like!). All through the bankrupcy time and all that, and getting beaten in nearly every old firm. This does not make me less of a city man, just a Celt(or tim) as well. See ya in de shed!

**A face** · 09/01/2004, 9:22 PM

Originally posted by Conor74
However I salute those like Pastic Paddy who really do support the team, who go to games, but have no time for the 99% in this country who watch the games on RTE and tie it in with some with some quasi republican mythology crap and somehow end up with the idea that they are expressing their nationalism through a British club

I would be inclined to agree with you here Conor

But

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**Beavis** · 09/01/2004, 9:51 PM

Some of my mates head over now and then.I presume they see it as an outlet to express they're irishness but when I ask if they'll come with us on the next national team away trip they've no interest.
Surely you can't get more irish than the Ireland team,I dunno!Maybe it's mindless republicanism there after and not irishness? No problem with republicans and would prob consider me one mesmelf but it is the mindless 'the word according to the Wolfetones/Eire Og/Sibeen/Old Brigade etc etc' type which quite p*sses me off and you get too much of that among irish Celtic fans.Think you should actually know why you support the cause,anyway I digress.

**Plastic Paddy** · 09/01/2004, 9:52 PM

'Twould take a bloody big fire to burn all us Celtic fans, but probably only a box of Cara and a gallon of red diesel for yous down at the Cross, hey?

PP

**A face** · 09/01/2004, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Plastic Paddy
'Twould take a bloody big fire to burn all us Celtic fans, but probably only a box of Cara and a gallon of red diesel for yous down at the Cross, hey?

PP

Yeah .... but i am only a stones throw from the cross.

How far would half of you lot have to travel to even get a smell of the singe ??

And PP ..... did i mention that Sell-Thick are British !!

And that will never ever change !!

**niamh** · 10/01/2004, 1:18 PM

Originally posted by thecorner
isnt that a bit harsh when there wasnt any glory for a very long period when rangers dominated the scottish game

Do you think they would fill Parkhead regularly if Rangers were trashing them in the league? No they wouldn't. At the time Celtic were points ahead in the league and the ground wasn't even full. United even when they are points ahead will fill Old Trafford.

The one thing I will say though is that I know the odd Irish Celtic fan who have season tickets and went to all the European games last season. There are some genuine ones out there and the rest of the glory hunters must really ****ed them off!!

**Gary** · 11/01/2004, 9:05 PM

Thread mereged with "Quote of the day"

try and keep Celtic related threads here please.

**Jam** · 12/01/2004, 7:10 PM

Originally posted by RebelBhoy

Then the rest (well nearly) is made up of second and third genereation Irish from Parkhead, Gallowgate, Easterhouse, Coatbridge and East Kilbride (Obviously other areas of west scotland too though) who see Celtic as a way of expressing their Irishness. Im behind them all the way.

I know loads of Celtic fans both from Catholic and Protestant descent from other parts of Scotland who have little modern day Irish descent. More like 4 generations ago for most of them and you could probably say that about half of Scotland. These people are Scots - not as you would describe them as 3rd or fourth generation Irish - most of them have probably never been to Ireland save a visit to donegal. The flying of the Tricolour and the singing of the Fields of Athenry doesn't make someone Irish.

There are loads of reasons why that happens - some due to the Irish origins of Celtic but some due to west of Scotland sectarianism - ths is a Scottish problem that bizarrely reflects an Irish problem - but it's Scottish nonetheless. Indeed this mass flying of the tricolour etc and the flipside at Ibrox has really taken off in the last 20-30 years at parkheid and probably reflects the northern Ireland situation - that's all.

Interestingly, enough on the flags at celtic park issue I know a few folk who have wanted to take the saltire to parkhead and have done so only to be sometimes given stick - usually from types telling them this doesn't belong here at Celtic park

probably cos it's blue and Scotland is of course a hun, brit country anti-catholic etc - keep up the paranoia.........and keep voting north-brit labour bhoys!!!

Do these types steadfastly refuse to swim in the sea or look at the sky cos it's blue? It's blue-aaaaarggh!!!!!!!!

**lopez** · 12/01/2004, 10:33 PM

Jam,

Haven't met before, so hello! As someone who has been critical of certain sections of Parkhead, was heartened to see a four part flag of the flags of Scotland (saltire), Ireland, Spain and the Celtic green and white flag at the last Old firm while watching the game on the box. I think times are changing, particularly as it was traditional to have the Ikurina, which is ironic considering the only Basque to play in an old firm (I may be wrong) wore a blue shirt.