Celtic Discussion

[fonzi]

naturally, it's got to be an Irishman's duty to follow the mighty Glasgow Rangers, the pride of all of Britain

how better to remember the great Irish rule by adopting the finist royalist team is Scotland and remembering the greatness of all things monarchonial

[petef]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Irish? No. Scottish who made his fortune in Canada. Started numerous campaigns to stop the Soldiers Song being sung pre-match and tried to tie up sectarian problems with the strong Irish connections.

The fans were having none of though thankfully....

How wouldn't the sectarian problems not be connnected with Ireland, unfortunately they go hand in hand.

I like Celtic, enjoy the football but all the bull**** that goes with it I have no interest, for purely football its great.

Having lived in Glasgow now for 4 years about half of the Celtic fans I've met are Scot's who think they are someway Irish because of distant family relations.

It is often this ill informed type of fan who will happily sing things like the Soldier Song and other sectarian songs I've never even heard of, some are even shocked that I'm Irish and don't know these tunes, you could explain to them that the south of Ireland (the majority, theres always a few) is not in any way as bigoted and twisted as they actually think, in fact most haven't even been there, the furthest they get is Donegal.

Best one I can remember is the Rangers fan who said to me he was shocked to see some woman from Ireland on Stars In Their Eyes singing Simply The Best, his words to me were how could she sing that tune when its played at Ibrox week in week out, when your faced with this level of stupidity on a weekly basis theres nothing you can say.

I have no problem with anyone supporting a distant team, I've supported Forest since I was a kid and have taken a keen interest in Celtic since I arrived over here.

I still keep an eye out for the odd result in the Eircom League as I used to train with a div 1 team a few yrs back and also play for the amateur side of another LOI team I also watch out for irish teams in europe and have a scout about these forums, but to be honest I can't really get excited about irish soccer as I still think the standard needs to improve significantly. Maybe things have changed since I last saw a game so I apologise if I am wrong.

Peter.

[Jam]

have to say Fergus McCann I think was right to try to remove the sectarian problems at Parkhead and if you think the singing of various Irish rebel songs at Celtic park isn't in a sense sectarian motivated then I would say take yer head oot yer erse.

There is a considerable vocal minority parkhead that think they are Irish in some way due to the fact that they are catholic (not even religious either - yet in some way culturally catholic). They are total bigots and think that Scottish society hates celtic and catholics and that non-celtic supporters are all h*ns. The removal of that is something to be applauded. I think Celtic are too Irish in this cringeworthy sentimental way. Rangers of course are a complete disgrace as well but they aren't being discussed.

Interesting to note that the Scottish Celtic fans who are anti-brit and republican don't vote SNP (Scottish Independence) - they all vote North-Brit Lab*ur party - so in fact they are all north-Brit Scum! Ha!



If I was Irish I would definitely support an Irish team not some team created by the Irish disapora over a century ago in a different country whose supporters (say in Scotland) identify with an identity of a country (Ireland) that in a huge way no longer exists in such a radical form.

[NigeSausagepump]

Originally posted by Jam


If I was Irish I would definitely support an Irish team not some team created by the Irish disapora over a century ago in a different country whose supporters (say in Scotland) identify with an identity of a country (Ireland) that in a huge way no longer exists in such a radical form.

Very well put mate.
My sentiments exactly.

[Paddy Ramone]

Originally posted by fonzi
naturally, it's got to be an Irishman's duty to follow the mighty Glasgow Rangers, the pride of all of Britain

how better to remember the great Irish rule by adopting the finist royalist team is Scotland and remembering the greatness of all things monarchonial

That's a good one, all the old Irish Gaelic chieftains were staunch monarchists. The Irish bards sang songs and wrote poetry exalting the Catholic Stuarts in the eighteenth century. 'Mo Ghile Gear' a song about Scottish hero Bonnie Prince Charlie was even considered as an Irish National anthem. Republicanism was brought to Ireland ironically by Ulster Presbyterians so Celtic should be the Royalists and Rangers should be the Republicans.

[wws]

East Fife
St Mirren
and South Park


there the teams I have a soft spot for in scotchland

[fonzi]

soldier song is a wasted lament by a bunch of people who are undermining what ireland is really all about.
we dont need fools chanting from the terraces about this that and the other, slandering this person or that,

its crap

[eoinh]

i wish Celtic luck in their campaign to join the premiership.


celtic - the unionist club

[wws]

up south park!

[Paddy Ramone]

As I said before Hibs are the best Scottish side for the Irish to support. They were the first ever side to be founded by Irish people in 1875 and wore the green even before Ireland did. Also they have roughly 50/50 Catholic-Protestant support and are non-sectarian with less of the old firm bigotry. I think Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland fans should wear Hibs tops instead of old firm tops. I'd also like to add that the greatest Irish player ever, a certain George Best (a Protestant) wore the green of the Hibees.