Celtic Discussion

**ccfcman** · 21/10/2004, 8:43 AM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

So that's their fault that they've outgrown their domestic league? It's a simple fact that if you're playing sh!te every week then you're going to struggle long term against better teams if you're not used to playing them.

They didnt up their game for the match as the should have, the eL teams did it for Europe so why can't Celtic?

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Neil Lennon? While I'm not a huge fan, the facts are fairly simple......he's got a better pass completion rate than most midfielders in the Champions League (opto stats)

Watch Lennon carefully most of his passes tend to be returned straight back to the player who first passed the ball or to the 'keeper.

**inexile** · 21/10/2004, 8:53 AM

im as big a celtic fan as anyone but i cannot stand lennon anyone could do the job he does imho a dog with a mallet up his ar5e could roll the ball 5 yards left or right never passing it forward he doesnt score goals he doesnt make goals and he doesnt protect his defence too well as shown but 2 of the 3 goals conceded last night the first goal he was forever closing down the lad that had the shot and the 2nd goal he was given the runaround by his opposite number who played the striker straight in on goal

**fosterdollar** · 21/10/2004, 8:55 AM

wasn't '....Celtic are atrocious' how it went?

**drinkfeckarse** · 21/10/2004, 9:10 AM

Originally Posted by ccfcman

They didnt up their game for the match as the should have, the eL teams did it for Europe so why can't Celtic?

Watch Lennon carefully most of his passes tend to be returned straight back to the player who first passed the ball or to the 'keeper.

You can't just turn it on like a switch. Celtic have consistently punched above their weight in Europe, they do raise their game all the time, I don't need to mention the teams they've beat recently and the teams they put out of the Uefa Cup.Unfortunately for Celtic though, most of their raised performances happen at Celtic Park, they can't seem to take it on their travels which can be said about a lot of teams.

While I don't want to take away from any of the great results by the EL teams in Europe, SOME of the results had as much to do with the fact that the other teams were in their pre-season and not half-way through a season like the EL teams IMO. I was delighted when City kept winning but in all honesty, I think if City were to play Nantes or Nijmegan now then the results might be different, seeing as they would be by now, match fit.

Final point about Lennon, it doesn't matter who or where you pass it too, as long as you keep possesion. He's not there to be a Zidane. Roy Keane does it, Gattuso does it, Lennon does it... that's why most managers would kill for players like these.

**Peterc** · 21/10/2004, 9:47 AM

Hopefully we wont have to watch them on TV anymore. There are other clubs from Britain in Europe who play more attractive football

**wws** · 21/10/2004, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

You can't just turn it on like a switch. Celtic have consistently punched above their weight in Europe, they do raise their game all the time, I don't need to mention the teams they've beat recently and the teams they put out of the Uefa Cup.Unfortunately for Celtic though, most of their raised performances happen at Celtic Park, they can't seem to take it on their travels which can be said about a lot of teams.
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except against us, we at saint pats are unbeaten against the saps in euro competition in Celtic Park. We even wore blue that night to inspire forward and lifelong ger Ian Gilzean!

**max power** · 21/10/2004, 10:05 AM

were celtic more of a european disgrace to ireland than longford

**NY Hoop** · 21/10/2004, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by max power

were celtic more of a european disgrace to ireland than longford

Dont start!! Get that PM?

And davros obviously you know little about EL but any premier division side here could play in the SPL. Remember b**z beat aberdeen and even I laughed at that result

KOH

**max power** · 21/10/2004, 10:10 AM

ya got it, waiting for word back

**wws** · 21/10/2004, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by davros

Like you'd even beat their reserves @ H........look fwd.to you drawing the H*ns.....that's If you ever get into Europe again

PS.How do explain the St.Pats.C.S.C.

?Stick to sorting the highways!

well of course we've been to europe since than , twice in fact - I wouldnt expect you to know seen as your more into yellow pack british football than irelands finest- last time out we even won one more game than supposed breakthrough team of the el shels did this year - ie we won two! lol

facts are stranger than FICTION

**ccfcman** · 21/10/2004, 10:38 AM

Celtic have left a lot of fans down, the likes of Shaktar really should be dispatched!

**Macy** · 21/10/2004, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by davros

As for the embittered EL constituency,they'll always be welcome @ the home of the Irish Diaspora.....shame they can't reciprocate!Hail Hail!

Chorlton Irish Club? Leeds Irish Centre? Or the many other Irish centre's around the world, never mind Britain? Why wouldn't they be welcome there

**NY Hoop** · 21/10/2004, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by davros

Yeah,right.....Shels,Corks,Bohs.....the latter 2 a Big Maybe.....the rest,you know F.A.about the SPL......& even Cardiff could win the EL

Btw,apart from basing your theory on form of 5 yrs.ago,Who exactly did Shams.model their kit on.....& why,like Pats.is there a S.R.C.S.C. & have met various Rovers' fans over the years,v.keen to promote the links!

If I know F.A. about SPL it would be a lot more than you know about the EL. FYI the SPL is beamed live every weekend over here and I can make up my mind as to the standard and it IS on a level with here. And pal it's not based on 5 years ago.

Dont know who shams are but ROVERS kit inspiration was the famous Belfast Celtic.

Yeah there are Rovers fans who follow celtic as I'm sure there are Pats fans who do. So what?

KOH

**drinkfeckarse** · 21/10/2004, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by ccfcman

Celtic have left a lot of fans down, the likes of Shaktar really should be dispatched!

As a Celtic fan, I don't think they let me down

I wasn't expecting much out there anyway, hopefull yes, but not expectant. I fully expect Celtic to beat them at home as per my argument earlier about raising their game, espeically at home.

The fact that Shaktar are bankrolled by a billionaire and spent �50m this year alone tells me that Celtic have not let the fans down even if the second half was very disappointing.

**Junior** · 21/10/2004, 1:50 PM

Unfortunately Celtic's strongest 11 is not strong enough at present to compete in the CL. When we lose 3 or 4 of these players and replace them with untried teenagers then we really are in trouble. I am not dillusional and can see this, however each time we go out to play I am optimistic that we can get something out of the game.

However, I am a realist. We play in a poor domestic league, which attracts poor levels of revenue from media and ensures we have great difficulty in attracting top class players to our club. This argument has been stated time and time again, but for the record playing Livingston or Dunfermline on the Saturday is not the ideal preparation for a Weds night game in the San Siro versus Milan.

I suppose if nothing else it gives some of the sad EL fans who frequent this site an opportunity to gloat.

Personally I hope Celtic and all EL sides can continue to progress in european competition - but unfortunately it just seems to be to uneven a playing field for that to happen.

**max power** · 21/10/2004, 2:15 PM

of course a negative post must be here so i think they are $hite

**Dublin12** · 21/10/2004, 2:17 PM

I like Celtic alot, but lets be honest here,last night they were a shambles and this season is one too many for this set of players in the CL

**A face** · 21/10/2004, 2:30 PM

I think everyone knows my view on Sell-Thick !!

**drinkfeckarse** · 21/10/2004, 2:34 PM

C'mon the hoops!!

**A face** · 21/10/2004, 2:46 PM

People ... stop making excuses FFS

Sell-Thick are being found out for what they really are !! I know that it ain't great now that the game is up and people are now getting a chance to smell the coffee and see them fpr what they really are.

In fairness ... you have to expect to land with a bump as you've been trying to fly this "oh we're such a great club, we've got more luck than a lucky bag" cr�p all along. Come down out of the clouds before you hurt yourselves and realise that SPL is the league you play in.

But in fairness i suppose you'd have to blame some of the people who have been taken in with all this sh�te aswell.