Celtic Discussion

[Jam]

haven't given Celtic players grief for over two decades. That was in the sad days where Rangers thought our national team was their team - total bigotry basically. Only the paranoid at Parkheid would think otherwise. Players aren't given grief at all - we don't care which club they play for...

The fan base is more the small clubs noo- I'm Dunfermline. I suppose some of these fans are more patriotic than your average old firm fan and dislike more what Rangers stand for than Celtic.

In general folk try to get on. We avoid club colours (we dinnae want moronic h*ns and t*ms fighting) apart fae the Queen's Park away top which has a huge Irn Bru can on the front and is a stoater .

I'd say the link to the article I posted is broadly correct overall if you want to get a feel for it - although I thought ye went yersel?

Also the fact that ye can never count yer chickens with regard to hooliganism coming back or just general bad behaviour which some folk hink they can get awa wi cos of the reputation of the TA is brought out well in the article. I wonder if the Irish fans have similar sort of problems i.e. arses turning up and acting a bit ootae order cos they think they can dae anything cos of the fans' good reputation..

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Jam
supporters of Eircom sides see their sides as Irish and Celtic as not (which is fact basically) but more importantly don't like the links being made between Celtic and Ireland (which is a matter of opinion..

I think you're spot on there to be honest. I personally have no problem saying that Celtic are a Scottish club with huge links to Ireland- the reason many other eircom League fans do have a problem with any linkage is because if one says to your average Irish Celtic fan that Celtic are Scottish, they don't agree. These people are so blind and caught up in their imaginary football-jersey wearing struggle against the British government that they will actually look you in the eye and say "Celtic are Irish." Which anyone with a brain can see is not fact. This level of extremity means that many eL fans take the other extreme in a "if they won't reason, neither will we" attitude.

[Scotsman]

Hi Jam I have only been to one Scotland game unfortunately.

I was not nterested in going to Scotland games when I was young - Was more interested in club games.

I always remember my dad watching Scotland games on the TV and I would not watch them as I thought they were boring.

I think the reason for that was that I was watching clubs week in and week out and Internationals were now and again and Scotland's football was not as free flowing as the Hoops.

As I got older I learned to appreciate Internationals more.

I always wanted Scotland to win.

I always loved the World Cup etc..

A couple of my mates had maybe been to 1 or 2 Scotland games but not a great deal - My dad used to go when it was the old Hampden and said the Scotland V England games were amazing.


Thanks

Robert

[Paddy Ramone]

More Irish people should support Hibernian as their favourite Scottish side instead of Celtic. The Hibees were the first football club to founded by Irish people ever in 1875. They were established by a Catholic priest Canon Hannan from Ballingarry, Co Limerick and their first captain came from Kilglass, Co Roscommon. Hibs' most famous supporter was the Irish Socialist Republican, James Connolly who led the 1916 rising. Connolly's parents came from Clones, Co Monaghan.

There is also the amazing fact that whenever a Hibee plays for Ireland, Ireland win and haven't even conceded a goal with a Hibee in the side. The full record is below.

17.5.1937 Paddy Farrell, v Swtizerland 1-0, Berne FR
23.5.1937 Paddy Farrell, v France 2-0, Paris FR
7.3.1954 Mickey Gallagher, v Luxembourg 1-0 Luuxembourg WC
27.3.2002 Nicky Colgan, v Denmark 3-0, Dublin FR
13.2.2003 Nicky Colgan, v Scotland 2-0, Glasgow FR
30.4.2003 Nicky Colgan, v Norway 1-0, Dublin FR

P W D L F A
6 6 0 0 10 0

A note on one of the players who is interesting, Mickey Gallagher was born on the Arranmore island Gaeltacht of the coast of Donegal and played GAA in Co Donegal before he moved to Scotland. He was the first native Irish speaker to play for Ireland and was an unsung member of the half-back line of Hibernian side that contained the famous five which was the best side in Scotland at the time.

So more Irish people should follow Hibs instead of Celtic (1888) who are just an imitation of the Hibees (1875).

[Paddy Ramone]

Yeah, you are right but that was only up until 1892, nowadays the Hibees have as many Protestant supporters as Catholic and are now completely non-sectarian unlike Celtic whose supporters are nearly all Catholic.

[Peadar]

Originally posted by Silvio Dante
No such nonsense at Celtic thankfully....

I heard that Rangers was formed by non-catholic people who weren't allowed to play for Celtic?
That sounds like sectarianism on the part of Celtic to me.

Football is a religion all of it's own.
I've seen God in Turners Cross.
He plays up front for Cork City FC.

If I ever start following Scotish football I'll consider Hibernian, is that ok?

[NigeSausagepump]

Good Jesus .

Can I now say that everyone who considers themselves to be Irish should support Botev rather than Nafteks in the Bulgarian first division.

Whereas Nafteks have an Irish setter called Paddykov as a mascot, Botev are more Irish as they show repeats of Father Ted dubbed into Bulgarian on the black and white TV in the club bar.
You owe them your allegiance.

[James]

isnt there a scottish football website out there in the internet that ye can go and discuss this drivvel

[Blueman]

During the early 1970's the Hibs chairman at the time wanted to sever all ties with Ireland and removed the Harp which stood outside the main gate. He also tried to rename the club but this was going too far.
In the last couple of years due to increasing pressure from supporters the Harp has been incorporated in the new crest.

[Scotsman]

Did he??

Why he's Irish!!!

That a strange one - Never heard that before.