Quotebit you never hear this about any other clubs, only rangers and celtic, they take it to another level, religion, where your from, irish history ( yes irish ).
at the end of the day its a football club and a football match and its no more than that.
The problem is..
to associate ALL fans in the same category of one team is silly.
I'll give you an example - I was in a pub in Edinburgh and was talking with this Hibs fan and Hearts fan - They were having a heated debate and I was asked who I supported being a "Weegie".
When I stated I was a Celtic fan the Jambo said "Ooh you must be a Catholic then!!"
This was said in a derogative manner - The Hibs fan was fine with me.
This indicates that NOT just Celtic fans are bigoted.
Alot of Rangers fans are bigoted, but not all.
To say all would be unfair.
Alot of Celtic fans are bigoted, but to say all would be unfair.
Alot of people have short memories in this area I feel.
Anyway bigotry has no place and is getting stamped out in my eyes.
My in-laws are Rangers season holders and they always buy me Celtic clothes, goodies etc..
They go to Celtic shops as well for me.
I have drank from Don's Rangers mug and he has drank from my Celtic mug.
Ta
bit you never hear this about any other clubs, only rangers and celtic, they take it to another level, religion, where your from, irish history ( yes irish ).
at the end of the day its a football club and a football match and its no more than that.
Ignore Max Power, he is no more, the future is Ron Burgundy. I'd love to be Ron Burgundy but they won't let me........
In footballing terms you're correct.
Celtic and Rangers need to shed this baggage.
Alot of clubs have other issues
other issues don't bother me, all that bothers me is the attitude of celtic fans in ireland, celtic are not irish.
Ignore Max Power, he is no more, the future is Ron Burgundy. I'd love to be Ron Burgundy but they won't let me........
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Question to Scotsman
Right, i have no doubts that you are a passionate Celtic fan. Afterall, why should you not be, they are a local club of yours.
But last week, in the build up to the UEFA cup final, there was constant references to the amount of irish people who had tickets for the game in Seville. How would it make you feel, or a Parkhead season ticket holder feel, if you were not able to get a ticket due to the allocations given to Irish Celtic "fans"?
Personally, it made me cringe seeing all these morons spending €0000s to get there, to see a scottish team lose. But i know, as a Cork City fan, that if i were locked out of a city game because some lángers from, say, Brighton had taken a load of tickets, id be fairly ticked off.
Last edited by Gary; 27/05/2003 at 7:25 PM.
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Celtic were not "registered in ireland" so you hate them because they are not Irish?Originally posted by the dj
Originally posted by the dj
were "glasgow" celtic ever a team registered in ireland, the answer is no, they are not irish!!!!!
see ex pat irish, no longer in ireland, if your can't see why i hate the club you've just written it above, they are not irish , support man united and they are not irish and i've never said they were and i would never tell someone to follow them either
So you hate every club outside the Republic of Ireland??
I'm sorry I really can't see any sense in that.
Is this in answer to my post?Originally posted by the dj
you said it face they have an assocation with ireland, but they are not irish, thats the simple fact at the end of the day, no matter how much you and others want them t o be irish they won't be.
man u are a business as are celtic, they are a plc. no difference, but they are moving the same way and are marketing on a world level, why do you think they are playing each other in america during the summer, for the good of their health ???
I',m sorry if it's not but
If so, as regards the first paragraph:
"how much you and others want them t o be irish they won't be."
Who wants them to be Irish ??
Me ??
I have never, ever heard, read or been told that Celtic FC wants to be Irish.
Do you hate Celtic, because of something which has never happened?
As for the second paragraph, I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Last edited by patsh; 27/05/2003 at 8:15 PM.
I can understand both sides of the debate - Let's look at the facts and see if we can make sense of some of the issues.
Celtic FC was started by an Irish priest.
Started to help the poor in Glasgow.
Called Celtic so that Irish and Scots could support them.
With Celtic being started with an Irishman and alot of Irish immigrants in Glasgow following Celtic there is a strong Irish link.
I would say Celtic are a Scottish team with strong Irish links - Others may look at Celtic and say their Irish.
It depends on your outlook I suppose - Geographically their Scottish and were registered in Scotland.
I like the fact that Scots and Irish suport Celtic - Personal opinion.
With regards to the Irish supporters in Seville - What must be taken into consideration is that the majority would be season ticket holders and for them to not get a ticket would be awful.
If the tickets go to genuine fans then no Celtic fan can argue with that.
Ta
Well you can't leave out Villa there with McGrath/Houghton/Staunton/Farrelly/Cascarino (they can't help it that he was poor)/ Kinsella...
And to give Celtic their due Conor, you have to include McCarthy and Chris Morris too. And Cascarino again (they can't help it that he was poor!) And Brady had a spell as boss too.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
Conor SLK you are both right.
As I said before, I have no particular interest in Celtic, but what I don't understand, and what nobody has explained here is why they hate the Celtic football club.
There are a lot of reasons why the irish fans of the club are detested, which is fair enough, but I can't see what the club itself has done to be hated.
I have no interest at all in Man U, but have often felt like strangling one or two of their "fans" here in Cork. I can, however, see the difference between them and the club.
I absolutely detest Moses and his gang of pre-pubescent scuts, but hardly blame Cork City FC for their behaviour.
The Old Firm in general have a poor record at playing any Scots also.
It might be and it might not be a marketing issue with Celtic.
I believe however Celtic care for all their Fans - Scottish/Irish/American....
Only Celtic Fc would know that.
Rangers also have alot of Irish fans but have NO Irish connection.
We all know why this is.
The situation with the Old Firm is that they are institutions and the fans demand success at all times and alot of the youth don't play as result of this.
Catch 22.
Scotland will see alot more youth players getting their chance now as that's the road we'll have to take - We need to get back to the days of Auld.
Ta
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