QuoteThe man who won his third european trophy last night. I know Fergie and Sir Bob have four european trophies but have any other managers got four. Trap maybe?Originally Posted by BonnieShels
That would have been Rafa.
The man who won his third european trophy last night. I know Fergie and Sir Bob have four european trophies but have any other managers got four. Trap maybe?
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I'd like him at either Liverpool or Everton (depending on who their next manager is). I think Everton have a very good bunch of pros and it would be nice to see what he could do with Gibson. Obviously, they could lose a few players, but they should stay a top 7-8 club, unless they are pilfered for 4-5 players. I really think Liverpool are going places with Rodgers. They're playing lovely football with a young team and there has been a very noticeable improvement in their results in the second half of the season, even allowing for the monumental f*ck up that they have. I've been really impressed with Coutinho and Sturridge. With the right signings, they could make the Champions League next season.
Spurs would be interesting also. I really rate Villas Boas as a manager and they have the foundations of a very good team there. I actually think that Villas Boas could build a great team there in the coming seasons, provided he isn't poached by a more prestigious club.
Chelsea and Man City would be terrible moves for him. United will be an absolute pressure cooker next season and I'm not sure it would be the best place for a lad at James's stage of development.
I fancy this. Martinez is unlikely to stay at Wigan. If he moves to an English club then I'd fancy him bringing McCarthy with him (Kone and McManaman could move on and possibly follow, but I don't think McManaman has enough football played at the top-level and he'd be stunted at a bigger club in this regard).
It's a year or two too early for McCarthy to move to a big club. The development of aggression to match his poise is more likely at a safe club like Everton or even a side like Swansea. A big-club environment pressure-cooker might not be the place to do this. For some reason, Darron Gibson's development and time as a reserve at Man United keeps coming into my mind whenever I picture McCarthy at one of the big clubs.
Last edited by Olé Olé; 16/05/2013 at 6:02 PM.
Trapattoni has four European trophies as a manager for sure, 3x UEFA Cups and 1x European Cup. There's another manager called Nereo Rocco from the 60's - 70's who won two European Cups and two Cup Winners Cups. Mourinho, Benitez and Cruyff & Udo Lattek are on three European trophy wins. Can't think of any other managers who have won more three or more, although there's certainly more managers on three wins.
Jupp Heynckes has three as well, but two are intertoto cups.
Trap also won a Cup Winner's Cup so he has 5, a clean sweep if you include the Intercontinental and Super Cups. He's surely the only manager to have won everything with the same club. Also league championships with five different clubs in four different countries. Most notably though, The Carling Nations Cup.
such a good cv for such a dreadful manager
Not dreadful. Just way past his 'use-by-date'...
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Well I wish I had said Oxbow because he won the race, Orb came 4th!!
Going by the form Orb look like he should win but as so often is the case in horse racing the form is not worth the paper it is written on!!
That is why I tend to avoid anything short priced, I'd rather stick a few pennies on an outsider then you don't look so stupid if it loses and
a genius if it wins!!
He got a bit boxed in but even so he looked nothing like the horse he was in previous races.
Anyhow I never got round to looking at the form for the race, wish I had now actually!!
This is how it goes, the winner Oxbow didn't have any decent recent form, but if you look back 5 races you see he did win one, but 10 lengths, that is pretty good.
Furthermore the horse he beat then was Golden Soul who came second to Orb in his last outing, Orb beat him by 2 lengths.
So if you put those two pieces of form together you have a good case for saying Oxbow should beat Orb by 10 -2 = 8 lengths!!
He actually beat him by 9 lengths!!
So it was all the in the form had I bothered to look.
I think he won at 15-1 which was a dammed good price given the above.
I am actually annoyed I never looked because a bet like that is right up my street,
I always used to look for anomalies in the from like that and I would say it is 50/50 whether the horse runs to his good form so 15-1 is a steal.
Dammed good opportunity missed, but I did look but it is really hard to find form for USA form, I goggled it but best I could find was USA sites selling the form.
Then today I had a bit of a brain wave and looked on the UK racing post site just stuck the name in and the form for all the horse was there.
Bit late now of course missed opportunity to show what a great gambler I am,
and make you a bit of money
Last edited by tricky_colour; 22/05/2013 at 2:48 AM.
Just to let you know your full stop button is broken you might want to get that fixed.
I can't think of any, I know Happel has two European Cups and was the manager of losing finalists in the Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup. Lattek has won all 3 (EC with Bayern, UEFA with Gladbach and CWC with Barcelona), Rinus Michels has a EC, UEFA Cup (or Fairs Cup as it then was) and Euro 88 (International teams).
Del Bosque has a nice mixture of two Champions Leagues as well as a World Cup and European Championship also. Possibly the most impressive of all club/international combinations?
I suppose that Euro 2008 win was probably the most difficult from a Spanish point of view though under Aragonés.
Huh??
I don't get it either for what its worth Art. POSH and the like clearly did.
Tricky you should get all over the Belmont Stakes in 3 weeks.
I saw one of your guys Northern Country men at the Rangers game last night, Liam Neeson. He has a big head in person. Seems a bit gruff.
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
Gustavo was saying that a full stop is only one dot. Not three...
Except my post (as quoted) was 'edited'. And not by me.
Anyway, it was never intended as a single full-stop...
Oh right, you just have a, er, hard-on for ellipses then...Except my post (as quoted) was 'edited'. And not by me.
Anyway, it was never intended as a single full-stop...
Last edited by The Fly; 22/05/2013 at 5:22 PM.
Cheers
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
You mean ellipses...Oh right, you just have a, er, hard-on for ellipsis then...
Hardly a crime.
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