James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

**BonnieShels** · 29/12/2012, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

He is a scot though! He simply plays international football for Ireland...

**BonnieShels** · 06/01/2013, 1:11 AM

Linked with Arsenal according to the ever reliable Mirror.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-wigan-1519640

**tetsujin1979** · 10/01/2013, 10:23 AM

The as-reliable-as-the-Mirror Daily Star has linked him with Everton, as a replacement for Fellaini if he moves to Man United or Chelsea: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...r-David-Moyes/

**DannyInvincible** · 10/01/2013, 10:31 AM

Fellaini and McCarthy aren't remotely similar players.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 10/01/2013, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

He is a scot though! He simply plays international football for Ireland...

Strange thing to say...
Even by your standards.

**SkStu** · 10/01/2013, 7:33 PM

How is that strange? He was born in Scotland to Scottish parents.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 10/01/2013, 10:52 PM

Whose parents were from Ulster.

Next...

**Colbert Report** · 10/01/2013, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

How is that strange? He was born in Scotland to Scottish parents.

I'd like to see you tell Ray Houghton that he is a Scot.

**SkStu** · 10/01/2013, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Whose parents were from Ulster.

Next...

Oh, so his grandparents were Irish.

He is, despite his eligibility for the Irish team, a Scot. Ditto Ray Houghton. It's not that controversial lads. Wind the necks in.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 10/01/2013, 11:49 PM

Luckily the FAI aren't as small-minded...

And my pal was at school with Houghton;he always wanted to play for Ireland...

**SkStu** · 11/01/2013, 12:24 AM

Really don't know what you're trying to accuse me of now. Smallmindedness? Au contraire mon ami! The recruitment policy of the FAI has served us very well. Some of my favourite Irish players were born in other countries to parents who weren't born in Ireland. They (may have) felt Irish and they were proud to represent the country of their ancestors. That made me proud and delighted to welcome them on board but it didn't make them not Scottish or not English. Do you consider Clinton Morrisson Irish? Martin Keown?

**Charlie Darwin** · 11/01/2013, 12:48 AM

Just because a Scotland-born player is Irish, that doesn't mean he's not also a Scot too. This isn't controversial - these players are Irish and Scottish, and they have every right to be proud of that.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 11/01/2013, 1:25 AM

Well it's up to them to choose. Not for us to say.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 11/01/2013, 1:28 AM

Morrisson was eligible. And good enough at the time, so what?

And Keown is my pal's distant cousin. Not that my pal was ever too impressed by his choice of national team. But down to them and FIFA's criteria.

**geysir** · 11/01/2013, 7:12 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Really don't know what you're trying to accuse me of now. Smallmindedness? Au contraire mon ami! The recruitment policy of the FAI has served us very well. Some of my favourite Irish players were born in other countries to parents who weren't born in Ireland. They (may have) felt Irish and they were proud to represent the country of their ancestors. That made me proud and delighted to welcome them on board but it didn't make them not Scottish or not English. Do you consider Clinton Morrisson Irish? Martin Keown?

Maybe you were being deliberately obtuse when you said of James, "he is a scot though! He simply plays international football for Ireland..." as if he had no Irish ethnicity or nationality that held a meaning or value. If you want to be accurate, McCarthy is Scots Irish, same as McGeady, Houghton, Coyle etc, that's how they describe their own ethnicity.

**BonnieShels** · 11/01/2013, 9:08 AM

What geysir said.

**paul_oshea** · 11/01/2013, 9:24 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Really don't know what you're trying to accuse me of now. Smallmindedness? Au contraire mon ami! The recruitment policy of the FAI has served us very well. Some of my favourite Irish players were born in other countries to parents who weren't born in Ireland. They (may have) felt Irish and they were proud to represent the country of their ancestors. That made me proud and delighted to welcome them on board but it didn't make them not Scottish or not English. Do you consider Clinton Morrisson Irish? Martin Keown?

If a donkey is born in a stable does it make him a horse?

**BonnieShels** · 11/01/2013, 9:43 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

If a donkey is born in a stable does it make him a horse?

Ask the Duke of Wellington or Daniel O'Connell.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 11/01/2013, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Maybe you were being deliberately obtuse when you said of James, "he is a scot though! He simply plays international football for Ireland..." as if he had no Irish ethnicity or nationality that held a meaning or value. If you want to be accurate, McCarthy is Scots Irish, same as McGeady, Houghton, Coyle etc, that's how they describe their own ethnicity.

Actually, I've met Houghton and said he was proud to be 'Donegal Irish'. Though also said he was proud of being a 'Weegie' !

Don't care if he came from N*van, gave us two of the best goals Ever...

**Junior** · 11/01/2013, 11:17 AM

Is Kilbane a Brit/Anglo/English - Irishman? (Morrison, Keown are too easy targets).

I think he'd say otherwise. I think he'd say he was an Irishman. Pure and simple and that wouldnt be controversial either.

Just because someone is born in Scotland or anywhere else for that matter does not automatically make them a 'Scot' + A.N.Other Nationality (if they have the ancestory elsewhere) IMO.