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Thread: James McCarthy M Celtic b.1990

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    When he first came on the scene, he was training with Liverpool and lobbing Pepe Reina, being praised by Steven Gerrarrd and Rafa Benitez, and was strongly linked with a move from Hamilton Academical to Barcelona.

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    Sounds a bit like Jack Byrne impressing Vieira and co. Pinch of salt required.

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    Could he be a case of a lad that played too much senior football too young ?

    Has had a lot of niggling injuries . Perhaps his body was not up to playing so many senior games at the age he did ?

    Would it be a big surprise if he says he wants to concentrate on his club career and give up the international stuff .

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Would it be a big surprise if he says he wants to concentrate on his club career and give up the international stuff .
    I don't think anybody would be too shocked. If he can stay fit in the short-term he'll surely fancy another crack at the Euros, especially with our position in the group at the moment. After that, you could see why he might call it a day at international level, but hopefully not.

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    Keith Andrews and Peter Reid, showing my age here, overcame injuries at around Mc Carthy's age to go on and have good careers. I am an optimist in a sea of pessimism!��

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Interesting point. It could be viewed that playing over 200 Premier League games and playing a few years with a top 6/7 side is actually delivering on the hype, these days anyway, given how few of our players even achieve that.


    There's a lot of excitement about Troy Parrott at the moment but what are the realistic expectations? That he'll become a regular goalscorer for Tottenham or another Champions League team? Or would we be happy enough if he's scoring goals fairly regularly for a bottom half PL side? I suppose at the moment we have to dream of the former, but how likely is it to happen?

    There's probably four outcomes for Troy over the next 5 years:


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    He's the closest thing we've had to Robbie Keane with a touch of Wes. He's playing well for a very good premier league team and is Ireland’s best player. My guess 20%


    He’s currently on trajectory for this outcome but everyone from Richie Partridge to Conor Clifford to Anto Stokes were on that path before they reached 18, and they lost their way either due to injuries or misfortune or personal problems or a mixture of all of them.


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    Ends up in that second tier, where he’s at the level of a lot of current irish internationals. Playing for a team which is somewhere between the 11th and 30th best side in England. He’s good but not a revelation. 55%


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    Struggles to establish himself at a less technical club, problems off the pitch, is playing at a level where he wouldn’t be considered likely to play for Ireland, perhaps back in Ireland or in the lower leagues. Something similar to how Jack Byrne’s last few years have gone. 20%


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    Out of the game entirely ala Joxer (John-Paul Kelly). 5%

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    McCarthy played the full 90 today for crystal palace 23s. Last season everton didn't seem to hardly ever allow him play 23 football

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    McCarthy played the full 90 today for crystal palace 23s. Last season everton didn't seem to hardly ever allow him play 23 football
    Also mick McCarthy flew in to London to watch james in the under 23 game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Also mick McCarthy flew in to London to watch james in the under 23 game
    Is that a joke or serious?

    EDIT: Have seen that Mick did indeed watch that match. Got to say I really like this decision, as opposed to what some managers would do -- simply wait until he James is playing first team football before contemplating including him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    Is that a joke or serious?

    EDIT: Have seen that Mick did indeed watch that match. Got to say I really like this decision, as opposed to what some managers would do -- simply wait until he James is playing first team football before contemplating including him.
    Desperate times. Whelan still without a club - who's going to play the holding midfield role against Switzerland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsMiseSean View Post
    Desperate times. Whelan still without a club - who's going to play the holding midfield role against Switzerland.
    He's going to play a midfield two of Hendrick-Hourihane again, isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    He's going to play a midfield two of Hendrick-Hourihane again, isn't he?
    McCarthy will start, why would mick go to the U23 Palace game? I guess he will do a like for like swap with James in for Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    McCarthy will start, why would mick go to the U23 Palace game? I guess he will do a like for like swap with James in for Glenn
    Palace have a few games before then. If McCarthy gets a bit of game time, you're probably right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I don't think anybody would be too shocked. If he can stay fit in the short-term he'll surely fancy another crack at the Euros, especially with our position in the group at the moment. After that, you could see why he might call it a day at international level, but hopefully not.
    Mick said in the press that he has been in regular contact with James during the summer so that'd suggest he is still available for selection. I could understand it too if he decided to focus on club football only. I do hope one day we'll see a fit and confident McCarthy playing regularly for us.

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    McCarthy very lucky not to have a broken leg after a horror challenge a few minutes after being subbed on away to Sheffield United.

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    Came on late and played a part in the winner for Palace. It's the first play I've seen of him since before his injury, he's got the swagger alright. Next game up is a league cup game, let's hope he plays in that, still a long shot though for the september games.

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    Palace play Colchestor FC on Tues ( they are League 2) I wonder would 70 mins in that game be enough for James to start against the Swiss?

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    He finished the game. Manager Roy "We sign players, believe in them and believe that when they get their chance they will shine. You can't do more than give them a chance to come in and shine and there will be some who aren't happy with their performance."

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    He finished the game. Manager Roy "We sign players, believe in them and believe that when they get their chance they will shine. You can't do more than give them a chance to come in and shine and there will be some who aren't happy with their performance."
    That doesn't sound too good, considering McCarthy was one of only two starters that they signed this summer, the other was loanee Victor Camarasa.

    At least he got ninety minutes though, probably the most important thing for now.

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