James McCarthy M Celtic b.1990

**Razors left peg** · 04/11/2009, 4:41 PM

Seen McCarthy playing for the u21s against the Swiss on Sky recently and while he didnt stand out all game he did some things like making space for himself with his first touch that made me think he is going to be a really excellent player.He wasnt flashy but certain basic things stood out at times that showed a bit of class

**livehead1** · 04/11/2009, 9:28 PM

I've just scrolled through today's posts on this looking for eirebhoy's without clicking on that I won't be reading his extremely intelligent well thought out comments. Was pretty poignant. Feel free to move this.

**irishfan86** · 04/11/2009, 9:40 PM

Originally Posted by livehead1

I've just scrolled through today's posts on this looking for eirebhoy's without clicking on that I won't be reading his extremely intelligent well thought out comments. Was pretty poignant. Feel free to move this.

I know what you mean. I remember people were discussing bonus points in another thread, and I kept scrolling down anticipating eirebhoy's involvement, as he was always bringing up bonus points as an indicator of a player's performance in a given game.

**Reality Bites** · 23/11/2009, 9:18 PM

Any word on his injury?? I wonder will rout at Spurs help to promote him up a few places in the squad..its hard to know what direction his career is going at the moment, I am beginning to wonder was it just more media driven frenzy about this kid although I hope not it would be great to see a young Irish player breakthrough..

**Crosby87** · 23/11/2009, 10:43 PM

Is he hurt or just not picked?

**drummerboy** · 24/11/2009, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

Is he hurt or just not picked?

Both, seemingly

**SkStu** · 24/11/2009, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by drummerboy

Both, seemingly

hurt feelings cos he's not being picked?

**Razors left peg** · 28/11/2009, 1:44 PM

Hes on the bench today for Wigan.Hopefully the hammering they got last week will make Martinez want to freshen up his team in the next few weeks and McCarthy will get his chance

**Crosby87** · 28/11/2009, 1:52 PM

Is it better to play in Scotland on Hamilton or sit on the bench for Wigan every week?
Should he have stayed in the SPL until he was a bit older?

**Razors left peg** · 28/11/2009, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

Is it better to play in Scotland on Hamilton or sit on the bench for Wigan every week?
Should he have stayed in the SPL until he was a bit older?

well he hasnt even really been on the bench for Wigan up to now so its a step in the right direction for him. Personally I think he had gone as far as he could have at Hamilton and he should benefit from better coaching at Wigan, if he starts playing regularly then he will definately improve

**galwayjames** · 28/11/2009, 3:01 PM

It's hard to remember he's only 18, normally a player only starts playing regular football at 21.

**Cosmo** · 28/11/2009, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

Is it better to play in Scotland on Hamilton or sit on the bench for Wigan every week?
Should he have stayed in the SPL until he was a bit older?

He should've gone to a championship club! Never thought he'd get a look in straight away in the premiership! Hopefully wigan send him out on loan or something as first team footballs a must

**Predator** · 28/11/2009, 5:56 PM

Originally Posted by galwayjames

It's hard to remember he's only 18, normally a player only starts playing regular football at 21.

Pedantry, but isn't he 19?

**Jicked** · 29/11/2009, 2:14 AM

I posted this a page ago:

He's still a boy for god's sake, far too early to call him a bust. It does show how ridiculous arguments for him to have been included in Irish squads on the back of people seeing that he got a game with Hamilton was though. He is only 18, if we was a regular in a Premier League team then he'd be one of the best players in the world, up there with the likes of Rooney and Fabregas. Instead it will probably take him until he's 20/21 to break through like most other extremely talented youngsters, and he'll go on to have a great career. He might not be a Rooney or Fabregas but he will still surely be a very good player for us in the future despite that.

He's 18/19, we don't need constant updates about him not being in the team, not making a bench, scoring for reserves. He's a bloody child. In 3/4 years time you can start worrying about his development, Frank Lampard didn't become a first team regular until he was 21, why exactly do people think McCarthy would be in a Premiership team already??

He also doesn't desperately need to go on loan to a Championship team to get game time at his age. He's coming along just fine if he's in Premier League squads aged 18 and highly rated by numerous coaches.
He won't be an issue for the Irish squad until we start worrying about qualifying for Brazil 2014. In the meantime let's worry about whether he'll melt in that heat/humidity ala Steve Staunton, rather than questioning if he'll be Wigan's lynchpin against Fabregas when they meet later this season.

**Colbert Report** · 30/11/2009, 4:54 AM

Originally Posted by Jicked

I posted this a page ago:

He's still a boy for god's sake, far too early to call him a bust. It does show how ridiculous arguments for him to have been included in Irish squads on the back of people seeing that he got a game with Hamilton was though. He is only 18, if we was a regular in a Premier League team then he'd be one of the best players in the world, up there with the likes of Rooney and Fabregas. Instead it will probably take him until he's 20/21 to break through like most other extremely talented youngsters, and he'll go on to have a great career. He might not be a Rooney or Fabregas but he will still surely be a very good player for us in the future despite that.

He's 18/19, we don't need constant updates about him not being in the team, not making a bench, scoring for reserves. He's a bloody child. In 3/4 years time you can start worrying about his development, Frank Lampard didn't become a first team regular until he was 21, why exactly do people think McCarthy would be in a Premiership team already??

He also doesn't desperately need to go on loan to a Championship team to get game time at his age. He's coming along just fine if he's in Premier League squads aged 18 and highly rated by numerous coaches.
He won't be an issue for the Irish squad until we start worrying about qualifying for Brazil 2014. In the meantime let's worry about whether he'll melt in that heat/humidity ala Steve Staunton, rather than questioning if he'll be Wigan's lynchpin against Fabregas when they meet later this season.

No, I'm not buying this argument. I'll give him until this time next year before declaring him a total bust.

**Razors left peg** · 30/11/2009, 6:45 AM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

No, I'm not buying this argument. I'll give him until this time next year before declaring him a total bust.

Im sure he'll feel under pressure after that

**zackmorris** · 03/12/2009, 10:31 AM

http://www.wigantoday.net/latics/Whi...-on.5880585.jp

**Junior** · 03/12/2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by zackmorris

http://www.wigantoday.net/latics/Whi...-on.5880585.jp

Could be loaned out in January (possibly back to Scotland)

"James produces great standards on a daily basis in training, and he is not a long way away from the first team.

Though Martinez will re-evaluate in January - seems to be worried about the strength of his squad and will only loan James out if he can bring in replacements.

**Ozymandias** · 04/12/2009, 10:43 AM

would prefer if his loan deal was to the championship rather than scotland.....Just so he is in a different league rather than the comfort zone of the SPL