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    Have seen all the top teams in the division now and think it will be Kilmallock and Balla as top 2. Haven't heard anything on the rumour that Balla could go up.

    Whatever about the quality of the league it's exciting this year at the top and bottom. Anyone can beat anyone and all teams still have something to play for.

    Any predictions on relegation?

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    Caherdavin definately to go down along with shannon i think...Think kilmallock will win the league with balla in second...Doubt they can go up though..They can appeal it to the council but i think they had this one out before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgey View Post
    Have seen all the top teams in the division now and think it will be Kilmallock and Balla as top 2. Haven't heard anything on the rumour that Balla could go up.

    Whatever about the quality of the league it's exciting this year at the top and bottom. Anyone can beat anyone and all teams still have something to play for.

    Any predictions on relegation?
    At the mid-way point in the season I would have to go with the following.
    1. Kilmallock
    2. Mungret (Balla will probably finish 2nd with Mungret getting promoted by finishing 3rd)
    11. Charleville
    12. Caherdavin
    Last edited by abbeyvale; 05/12/2007 at 9:39 PM.

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    Prem Relegation / Division 1A Promotion

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    Can anyone confirm for definite exactly what happnes if Balla "B" finish in the top two spots in Division 1A this season.??

    (Providing Balla "B" cant get promoted, which I dont think they can).

    Does the team finishing 3rd in Division 1A automatically get promoted?

    Or

    Does the team finishing 3rd in Division 1A go into a play off game versus the team that finished 2nd last in the Prem League?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    this happened in clare league a few seasons ago..bottom 2 from premier will go down and top two in 1a go up if 1 of these teams can't go up next in line ie third go up automatically
    The 3rd placed team in the first division would hardly be as strong as the team that finished 2nd from bottom in the Prem, would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    The 3rd placed team in the first division would hardly be as strong as the team that finished 2nd from bottom in the Prem, would it?
    Ya the rule in all divisions is that if you finish in the bottom two you're relegated regardless of what happens with teams pulling out or a situation like Balla's. Remember all the hassle when Hill Celtic were relegated and Herbertstown were the third team from 1A promoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    The 3rd placed team in the first division would hardly be as strong as the team that finished 2nd from bottom in the Prem, would it?
    Didn't something similar happen a few years ago when Park asked to be dropped down from the Premier. The LDMC promoted Herbertstown who had finished 3rd in Division 1A instead of leaving Hill Celtic in the premier, who had finished 2nd last. Hill Celtics protest, which played havoc with fixtures in the Prmier and 1A was rejected. I think if Balla "B" do finish in the top 2 that they will appeal to go up on the basis that in recent years in lower divisions that some clubs ie. Fairview and Mungret have had 2 teams in one league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    The 3rd placed team in the first division would hardly be as strong as the team that finished 2nd from bottom in the Prem, would it?
    You never know they could be.

    Anyway I cant see how the LDMC could let Balla B get promoted if they finished in the top 2. It could ruin local football as in 3 or 4 years you could have 2 teams from a number of clubs in the premier.

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    [QUOTE=Mercurial Vapor;833477]Didn't something similar happen a few years ago when Park asked to be dropped down from the Premier. The LDMC promoted Herbertstown who had finished 3rd in Division 1A instead of leaving Hill Celtic in the premier, who had finished 2nd last. Hill Celtics protest, which played havoc with fixtures in the Prmier and 1A was rejected. I think if Balla "B" do finish in the top 2 that they will appeal to go up on the basis that in recent years in lower divisions that some clubs ie. Fairview and Mungret have had 2 teams in one league.[/QUOTE]

    I remember that. Fairview had 2 teams in a league and Corballys B and C teams were in the same league for a while also.

    But I also remember a few years back, a good few years, when Geraldines were in the premier and their B team won 1A and they were refused promotion on the basis that you could only have 1 team per league.

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    [QUOTE=gaidin;833518]
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor View Post
    Didn't something similar happen a few years ago when Park asked to be dropped down from the Premier. The LDMC promoted Herbertstown who had finished 3rd in Division 1A instead of leaving Hill Celtic in the premier, who had finished 2nd last. Hill Celtics protest, which played havoc with fixtures in the Prmier and 1A was rejected. I think if Balla "B" do finish in the top 2 that they will appeal to go up on the basis that in recent years in lower divisions that some clubs ie. Fairview and Mungret have had 2 teams in one league.[/QUOTE]

    I remember that. Fairview had 2 teams in a league and Corballys B and C teams were in the same league for a while also.

    But I also remember a few years back, a good few years, when Geraldines were in the premier and their B team won 1A and they were refused promotion on the basis that you could only have 1 team per league.
    I personally think its a joke to be honest..if a team finishs in 1st or 2nd in the league then they are good enough and deserve to be promoted..I remember when fairview had 2 teams in 1a a few years back and they got the both fixtures out of the way early so as to not cause any hassle with points later on in the season..This should be the case with balla(should they finish in top 2).It shouldn't matter if 2 teams are in 1a or premier if u ask me!!

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    if you get promoted you should go up, simple as that,if balla happen to go up, which by the way is way to early to presume in a tight league, imo the should be promoted!!obviously some new rules would have to be set, like maybe the a and b team playin as independant sides, eg.. no b players could play league or domestic cup football for the a team, however could be available in national competions, ie fai!it'd work for sure, as for a b team rolling over to give their a team six points a season i couldnt see it, not in premier anyway, balla b have a good side,have always had, they had jamie o sullivan and brock to mention a few playing for them,last season, they would give most premier sides a serious game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    The 3rd placed team in the first division would hardly be as strong as the team that finished 2nd from bottom in the Prem, would it?

    Could be, easily.
    Take Kilmallock and Dromore for example, just promoted from 1B, doing better so far than the relegated premier sides Herbertstown & Charleville (not to metion all the 1a sides!)
    I'm sure you can think of plenty more examples.
    Some teams change considerably from one season to the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor View Post
    Didn't something similar happen a few years ago when Park asked to be dropped down from the Premier. The LDMC promoted Herbertstown who had finished 3rd in Division 1A instead of leaving Hill Celtic in the premier, who had finished 2nd last. Hill Celtics protest, which played havoc with fixtures in the Prmier and 1A was rejected.
    Yeah, that was as long ago as last season !
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    just promoted from 1B, doing better so far than the relegated premier sides Herbertstown & Charleville (not to metion all the 1a sides!)

    Last time I checked the league table Herbertstown were doing better than more than half the teams in 1A.

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    Well MV - are Mungret going to add a couple of heavyweight signings when the Xmas Transfer Window opens??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor View Post
    just promoted from 1B, doing better so far than the relegated premier sides Herbertstown & Charleville (not to metion all the 1a sides!)

    Last time I checked the league table Herbertstown were doing better than more than half the teams in 1A.
    No argument there sir, my point was about the "1B" teams ahead of them
    (that the 1B teams are doing better than nearly all the 1A sides)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevB76 View Post
    Could be, easily.
    Take Kilmallock and Dromore for example, just promoted from 1B, doing better so far than the relegated premier sides Herbertstown & Charleville (not to metion all the 1a sides!)
    I'm sure you can think of plenty more examples.
    Some teams change considerably from one season to the next.

    I agree that during the close season that a team will get signings and become stronger for the start of a new season,

    What I meant was,

    If the 2nd last team in the Prem had a play off game versus the 3rd placed team in Div 1A, at the end of a season to decide who stays or goes up to the Prem, then surely the Prem team would be the stronger??

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    I agree that during the close season that a team will get signings and become stronger for the start of a new season,

    What I meant was,

    If the 2nd last team in the Prem had a play off game versus the 3rd placed team in Div 1A, at the end of a season to decide who stays or goes up to the Prem, then surely the Prem team would be the stronger??
    you would definitely expect them to be stronger than the 3rd best team in 1A, when teams get relegated it is automatically assumed that the teams that replace them in the league are better than them
    imo that is never the case it just means that the team that has been relegated from the higher division have played a better quality of team throughout the season than the team from the lower division has.


    as for relegation from 1a going on what I have seen so far I would have to say Caherdavin(unfortunately) and bruff.but to be honest both ends of the table are wide open

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    Well is there any way of clearing up this Balla B fiasco.its a bit of a balls goin through the season with this in doubt..although there's still alot of football to play,this must be cleared up sooner rather than later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballsy View Post
    Well is there any way of clearing up this Balla B fiasco.its a bit of a balls goin through the season with this in doubt..although there's still alot of football to play,this must be cleared up sooner rather than later!
    I think a vote should be taken at the start of each season between all Prem teams and all Div 1A teams, to decide if a "B Team" do finish in the top two of Div 1A should get promoted or not.

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