Cork AUL 2007/08

**Towelie** · 20/09/2007, 1:19 PM

Is Minty still in charge of the AUL team?
I think Varian and McCarthy from kinsale should be on it but thats about it.

**Soccer Fan.** · 20/09/2007, 1:55 PM

I have stayed quiet long enough!! I was happy to stay out of the discussion on the previous posts hoping that someone would write something intelligent but alas NO all I read was Sh-t from you all. I sit here wondering who you all are and how is it possible to have such little knowledge of local soocer and yet be part of it!!!. You all talk about Leeside being so great tell me What have they won in the last 6 years?? (A few AOH cups so what??). You all knock Kinsale what have they won (4 Premiers in a row and I think some Mossie Linnanes) yet when the rest of you were crap they flew the flag in the MJC & FAI - Short memories!!. You all talk about Grattan what have they won (one Premier league so and a run in the FAI So what??). I have seen Leeside/Grattan and Kinsale in action over the last 3 weeks and anyone of them can beat the other on their day - thats Junior soccer for you - one day great another bad.
So to finish cos I could go on for ever would you all please please only post stuff you know something about and not go and on about something you know Sh-t all about and we might 'just might' start to enjoy this forum!. I know what you all are thinking of doing just before you have read the last few lines and that is to reply and insult me because you do not like being told the truth!!. - Dont bother because it will only verify what I have just said - All you have to do is write something you know about - that will Do!!!.

**Shilts** · 20/09/2007, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by Towelie

Is Minty still in charge of the AUL team?
I think Varian and McCarthy from kinsale should be on it but thats about it.

Varian and McCarthy are good, very good in fact ...but aren't you allowed 11?
Seriously, Ben Ryan from Kinsale should definitely be on it too. Those 3 should be enough

**littleman** · 20/09/2007, 6:44 PM

Lads can we be at least a bit civil.Their are plenty of other threads that have lads slaggin each other and I was hopin we could keep ourselves above that.I have every respect for the individuals that are supporters of our Aul clubs and being passionate about it but Soccer your bang out of order,this forum is for opinions and you your self have stated that we should respect the opinions posted and thats why this forum is so good, your own words.Wether you like um or not you should at least respect the views of someone else and not throw cheap shots.The reason why this post is a great one is because even though we might not agree with what is being said we respect the fact that we all have our opinions on the different subject matter at hand.

Nobody said Kinsale were the worst team in the world or that no one appriciated what they had done in the last 4 or 5 years.I think all of the post's regardin Kinsale have actually been very respectfull stating quite clearly that they are a good side and deserve respect.Its pointless jumpin on one statement and loosin the rag.Bella just stated his opinion,which I happened to agree with and a few of you go BUNNYBOILER on it.Chill out and take it for what it is an opinion,thats all.

If Kinsale win the league so be it,Grattan great or Ballypheane or even Leeside or a complete outsider then thats the joys.To be perfectly honest gettin 5 or 6 of our top sides into the open draw for the Fai or Mjc is what would excite me the most rather than our individual sides tearin each other to peices.

**littleman** · 20/09/2007, 6:57 PM

With the level of competition this year and if we can get a good spread across the Prem sides surely we could mount a serious challange for the Oscar Traynor.Minty 's a good manager and a fair one and he's not attached to any club this year with Togher foldin so I think he might spread it across the board a bit more with regards to his team selection.

**qwertyui** · 20/09/2007, 9:58 PM

Well done to you all - a great read, very entertaining stuff.

SOCCER ur bang out of order. We're on here to express opinions - some see it different than others. Just because people dont think the way u do doesnt make u right, Do you want a hand down off that horse??

Littleman i dont rate minty at all tho... couldnt manage a p*ss up in a brewery!! How many Togher players did he have in the first aul squad last season? Wasnt it 5 or 6? Some sort of ridiculous figure- to even have one is bad enough. AUL managers always look after their own- Kinsale did it the year before and had a similar number and Passage b4 that -granted they're far better than togher but it happens. I'm just saying that minty did it last year and this harmed the team. The previous managers did it too but i still think they picked the strongest squads - last year this ddnt happen. I dont hold out much hope for the oscar traynor squad - Bring back John Shine!!!

**littleman** · 20/09/2007, 10:51 PM

Your not far wrong qwertyui.Its something thats happens every year as far as I can remember and trust me I go back a while.The manager is usually affiliated to some side within the league and he naturally has a lot of his players on it.Lookin back any manager I can remember always had a bagfull of his own on the squad,be it Coachford,Kinsale,Leeside Passage,Rockville or any one to be honest.

I'd agree with you that their were well better players available to him than the Togher players but a lot of the sides who were asked for players didnt show or didnt want to play for the Oscar Traynor so he went for what he knew an to be honest they did all right.On the brewery **** up an his management style,well we'll agree to disagree as I know him on a personal level and him and Decky put an awlful lot into last years run and could and should have got a lot more support from both the clubs within the Aul and the AUL itself.

Its very hard to pick the best side.You will always be drawn to the better sides as players who are used to winning and theirfore playin well are surely in a better position to carry that form on to the oscar traynor than say a lad who is playin with an ok side.T'is all about form really.

We can blow holes in his team selection till the cows come home but untill the individual clubs start to remember what an honour it is to represent your league then the players will not understand whats the fuss about.Cant see any manager being able to do much if he cant get the players he wants.

**bellavistaman** · 21/09/2007, 1:13 AM

Originally Posted by qwertyui

Well done to you all - a great read, very entertaining stuff.

SOCCER ur bang out of order. We're on here to express opinions - some see it different than others. Just because people dont think the way u do doesnt make u right, Do you want a hand down off that horse??

Littleman i dont rate minty at all tho... couldnt manage a p*ss up in a brewery!! How many Togher players did he have in the first aul squad last season? Wasnt it 5 or 6? Some sort of ridiculous figure- to even have one is bad enough. AUL managers always look after their own- Kinsale did it the year before and had a similar number and Passage b4 that -granted they're far better than togher but it happens. I'm just saying that minty did it last year and this harmed the team. The previous managers did it too but i still think they picked the strongest squads - last year this ddnt happen. I dont hold out much hope for the oscar traynor squad - Bring back John Shine!!!

Dunno bout managers or personell but one thing i do know its very very city orientated. We had a player for last two seasons who was without doubt best CM in aul, went to rams 21s straight as captain, and was asked to play seniors but couldnt commit to Eircom League life, yet never was anywhwere near the oscar traynor team. he was without doubt good enough for that squad it was a disgrace. But i supose if you dont watch any teams play how can you see them. Billy lyons commented many a time bout how good he is too.

**littleman** · 21/09/2007, 1:40 AM

Their are always pros and cons to the selections the Aul manager has to make Bella.I understand lately their seems to be more city players than country but I think thats just down to the fact that he could probably get to see 3 or 4 city sides in action over the weekend and maybe ony 1 or 2 from the country.Their was a time Bella when the majority of the team was from Coachford and Passsage.Mid 90's but still its not all one way.

You see your never goin to get a neutral manager,if Grattans Pat Caulfield or Ballypheans Dave O'Mahony or even Kinsale's Ger Foran were in charge no doubt they may have a case to pick the majority of the players from their own club side due to the fact that their supposed to be and I use the word loosely to be the top or fancied sides in the Aul premier.But what of the other teams,do'nt they deserve a lookin.Surely their must be a better way of gettin a team together,may be 4 or 5 trial games,somethin like that.I dont have the answers just suggestions thats all.

Regarding last years selection an if forced to answer a question on it I'd say that he would tell you that of the 16 or so he had for the Dublin game .Maybe only 9 or 10 were players he asked for at the start of the competition and the rest had to be called up to make up for the ones who couldnt be bothered their arse turning up when called at the start of the competition..Their were teams city as well as country who did'nt send their players when asked or the players could'nt be bothered.You sound Bella as if gettin a player from your team onto the panel would mean a lot to your club and to the player himself.Thats exactly what the AUL should be lookin for,and the manager too.

**bellavistaman** · 21/09/2007, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

Their are always pros and cons to the selections the Aul manager has to make Bella.I understand lately their seems to be more city players than country but I think thats just down to the fact that he could probably get to see 3 or 4 city sides in action over the weekend and maybe ony 1 or 2 from the country.Their was a time Bella when the majority of the team was from Coachford and Passsage.Mid 90's but still its not all one way.

You see your never goin to get a neutral manager,if Grattans Pat Caulfield or Ballypheans Dave O'Mahony or even Kinsale's Ger Foran were in charge no doubt they may have a case to pick the majority of the players from their own club side due to the fact that their supposed to be and I use the word loosely to be the top or fancied sides in the Aul premier.But what of the other teams,do'nt they deserve a lookin.Surely their must be a better way of gettin a team together,may be 4 or 5 trial games,somethin like that.I dont have the answers just suggestions thats all.

Regarding last years selection an if forced to answer a question on it I'd say that he would tell you that of the 16 or so he had for the Dublin game .Maybe only 9 or 10 were players he asked for at the start of the competition and the rest had to be called up to make up for the ones who couldnt be bothered their arse turning up when called at the start of the competition..Their were teams city as well as country who did'nt send their players when asked or the players could'nt be bothered.You sound Bella as if gettin a player from your team onto the panel would mean a lot to your club and to the player himself.Thats exactly what the AUL should be lookin for,and the manager too.

Totally agree with you there, about the selection of manager, pros and cons to every choice.

**littleman** · 21/09/2007, 5:48 PM

best of luck bella against dunbar and best of luck also to the Gratts and Leeside,serve us up a cracker

**bellavistaman** · 21/09/2007, 5:59 PM

Cheers, wouldnt mind getting out to that one, hope the football is high standard.

**littleman** · 21/09/2007, 6:15 PM

hopefully,the only thing is are we expectin to much,hope not

**bellavistaman** · 21/09/2007, 9:59 PM

Big games always turn out to have very little football, but with leeside pitch no excuses but nerves and hangovers!!!

**littleman** · 21/09/2007, 10:53 PM

knowin the way our lads are i'l go with the hangovers

**bellavistaman** · 22/09/2007, 9:49 AM

Ah surely not on the big games. Anybody know what murphys farm is like to play on?

**Towelie** · 24/09/2007, 8:18 AM

Leeside and Grattan drew 1 all yesterday morning.Entertaining game both sides had plenty of chances to win it.Grattan will be happier with the point though having played the last 20 minutes with 10 men.Kinsale won 4 nil so Leeside are loosing ground already.

**le tizz** · 24/09/2007, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by Towelie

Leeside and Grattan drew 1 all yesterday morning.Entertaining game both sides had plenty of chances to win it.Grattan will be happier with the point though having played the last 20 minutes with 10 men.Kinsale won 4 nil so Leeside are loosing ground already.

i was "lucky" enuf to see the last 20 minutes of the game too, neither side threatened either keeper, dunno what the rest of the game was like but both teams seemed to cancel each other out from what i saw, JP was easily marshalled by conor & jason keegan, leeside certainly looked more menacing going forward but i dont think they had a shot on goal or threatened the grattan goal at all for that matter, joe in the middle of the park makes the whole team tick but wasnt happening up front for them, looked like grattan were light on the ground littleman, were you missing a few ?? who got put off and for what ? i heard JP was on a yellow when he pulled the stunt of blocking the ball from the keeper ... lucky boy not to see red,
kinsale with another impressive result, as had ballyphehane (where do they play their home games) and wilton in the muster hat too, be interesting to see how grats get on against a week msl side fermoy this w/e, this time of the year its imperative to stay in the cups, it helps when you get byes and/or home ties, when does the oscar traynor invites go out ?? anyone here in with a shout of playing....bella / rebel ?? will it be rented gear and lennox's for a feed after giving up your day off again this year by the aul bigwig$$ ?? we'll always be 2nd fiddle to a better and richer lsl

**bogwarrior** · 24/09/2007, 1:30 PM

Unfortunately i couldnt make the game on sunday but i heard it was good to watch. Kinsale beat kanturk 4-0 but that was in the munster junior.

**KrocBoy** · 24/09/2007, 4:39 PM

Originally Posted by le tizz

i was "lucky" enuf to see the last 20 minutes of the game too, neither side threatened either keeper, dunno what the rest of the game was like but both teams seemed to cancel each other out from what i saw, JP was easily marshalled by conor & jason keegan, leeside certainly looked more menacing going forward but i dont think they had a shot on goal or threatened the grattan goal at all for that matter, joe in the middle of the park makes the whole team tick but wasnt happening up front for them, looked like grattan were light on the ground littleman, were you missing a few ?? who got put off and for what ? i heard JP was on a yellow when he pulled the stunt of blocking the ball from the keeper ... lucky boy not to see red,
kinsale with another impressive result, as had ballyphehane (where do they play their home games) and wilton in the muster hat too, be interesting to see how grats get on against a week msl side fermoy this w/e, this time of the year its imperative to stay in the cups, it helps when you get byes and/or home ties, when does the oscar traynor invites go out ?? anyone here in with a shout of playing....bella / rebel ?? will it be rented gear and lennox's for a feed after giving up your day off again this year by the aul bigwig$$ ?? we'll always be 2nd fiddle to a better and richer lsl

Was at both of those games at the weekend. Apart from a cracking shot that hit both posts before being cleared Kanturk didin't really threaten the Kinsale goal.
Varian,Mc Carthy and Kinsale's left winger(Ryan i think his name is) looked very good and were a constant threat all day. These 3 as someone else previously posted should at least be in the Cork squad if not the starting 11.
Kinsale really should've won by more and are looking very good at this early stage of the season.

Leeside started the better in the other match but didn't trouble the Grattan keeper apart from a tame effort at the edge of the box by Joe Lyons(leeside's best player on the day) that he left spill through his grasp.
JP scored the Grattan goal and they should've scored a few more in the first half but for some erractic shooting.
Grattan player got sent off for throwing an elbow after being on the pitch for only a couple of seconds!! Didn't notice JP gettin booked but his handball was an automatic yellow, and if already booked should've gone.
Grattan again created the better of the chances in the second half missing two clear cut one on one opportunities but will be the happier of the two with the result cosidering they had an outfield player on goal and had a man sent off.