Drogs v Helsingborgs

**MeathDrog** · 17/08/2007, 12:48 AM

Bye...

**dcfcsteve** · 17/08/2007, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Was it really that hard to understand what I meant? LOVE! Maybe I just have a huge heart and tiny head but it's impossible now for me to stop supporting Celtic. I presumed it was the same with most people and the clubs they support which goes back to the point I'm making for the 3rd time.

Fine if that's the case. But at least acknowledge to yourself (if not openly)why it is that you support Celtic.

It's fundamentally becasue you're an Irish Catholic. And like I said - great, if you want the religion you just happened to have been born into to dictate chunks of your life ad finitum thereafter. But that sort of robotic behaviour just isn't for me. And I struggle to see how it can be for anyone who has also turned their back on the religion that made that choice of football club for them in the first place (I'm talking generally here, as I don't know if you practice your religion still or not).

I should hope you observe/follow other Catholic nuances as well, such as not using condoms, by the way...

**eirebhoy** · 17/08/2007, 1:03 AM

Mate, you obviously did not love Celtic when you decided that they weren't for you. I don't know what it feels like not to love Celtic. I thought it would be pretty easy for a football fan to understand what I'm talking about. I wasn't old enough to make a rational decision to support Celtic. I grew to love them and that's the end of the story.

This thread is pretty embarrassing now. All the talk about love and whatever else.

**Snoop Drog** · 17/08/2007, 1:13 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

This thread is pretty embarrassing now. All the talk about love and whatever else.

Just go to bed and we'll pretend this thread never happened

**Soko** · 17/08/2007, 1:35 AM

I wouldn't mind waking up tomorrow and finding out I "love" something with all my heart

Eireboy, is it possible this could happen to any of us in the near future? I love loving things

**paul_oshea** · 17/08/2007, 8:08 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Which ironically is exactly how Irish people chose what English team to support (albeit at a younger age). So why is that methodology only acceptable when you're choosing a foreign team ....?

Do people in England who don't have a local senior team to support just pick a French or Spanish one at random instead ? The hell they do - they pick an English one.....

Absolute laughable bullsh!t there is.......

he is right steve, you being from the north wouldnt understand

Seriouslly though this assertion is correct, bar the backward country pumpkins and the scummy inner city types, celtic support is far less than united or liverpool. Having said that the support they get would actually involve people going to their matches at elast a few times and year and buying thier merchandise as oppossed to just watching them on the tele, like united or liverpool etc.

Oh and I love me. who wouldn't?

**lofty9** · 17/08/2007, 8:47 AM

How the hell can you love a football team?

Those saddos who went to support Larsson are showing severe tendancies of male love. Football terracing is obviously the wrong place for them. Each to their own I suppose.

**R�iteoir** · 17/08/2007, 8:56 AM

Someone in our office made the comparison after reading this thread of:

"Sure - you may love your ex-girlfriend, but you wouldn't travel up to cheer her on when she's out with another bloke. That's just wierd "

**NeilMcD** · 17/08/2007, 8:59 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

But the Irish support for Celtic is 110% built entirely upon the concept of identity and nationalisim ! There is no other explanation for it.

Why in the name of feck would anyone support a Scottish team if they could pick any team in the world ?!?

Seriously - it's that laughable...!

Totally agree, the whole Celtic thing is Ireland is madness not matter which way you look at it. It does not work on the nationalism angle that you should support your own and then ifyou say you can support any team in the world cause thats your right and freedom of choice and nationalism is a concept that one does not subscribe to it still does not work, as that is once of Celtics selling points.

**gspain** · 17/08/2007, 9:00 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Very rarely do I find a Celtic fan in this city. Someone I could actually have a chat with about Celtic. In my work place there's a few "Ah I live Celtic and all" type people but I'm the only Celtic fan. Loads of Liverpool fans. on boards.ie there must be 40 Liverpool fans posting there. There's 4 or 5 Celtic fans. I couldn't find anywhere showing the Celtic match yesterday in Dublin 5.

I can't stress enough how few Celtic fans there are in Dublin, compared to what people actually think.

12 years ago it would be unusual to find Celtic fans in the Republic (outside of Donegal). Most football fans would support Liverpool or Man utd

I went to the Packie Bonner testimonial in 1991 and there weren't any other Irish or Celtic fans on the boat either way. I appreciate there were plenty of boats but no obvious Irish travelling apart from the usual group from London who were supporting Ireland (like I was obviously). Celtic were a distant 3rd in th eelague at the time and didn't even manage 2nd place for another 5 years.

Celtic's support here has grown huely in recent years. Success and tv coverage has a lot to do with it and unfortunately the sectarian element has an attraction for some.

**paul_oshea** · 17/08/2007, 9:36 AM

Celtic's support here has grown huely in recent years. Success and tv coverage has a lot to do with it and unfortunately the sectarian element has an attraction for some

and the wolfe tones....

**Dodge** · 17/08/2007, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by gspain

12 years ago it would be unusual to find Celtic fans in the Republic (outside of Donegal)

Believe it or not I'd have called myself a Celtic fan 15 years or so ago. I was at that Bonner testimonial too. You couldn't get a celtic kit in dublin, so my aunt got mine in Belfast for me.

**btid1** · 17/08/2007, 9:48 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Fine if that's the case. But at least acknowledge to yourself (if not openly)why it is that you support Celtic.

It's fundamentally becasue you're an Irish Catholic. And like I said - great, if you want the religion you just happened to have been born into to dictate chunks of your life ad finitum thereafter. But that sort of robotic behaviour just isn't for me. And I struggle to see how it can be for anyone who has also turned their back on the religion that made that choice of football club for them in the first place (I'm talking generally here, as I don't know if you practice your religion still or not).

I should hope you observe/follow other Catholic nuances as well, such as not using condoms, by the way...

Steve, Im very impressed with your performance in this thread.Pretty much captures all my thoughts on the issue.

You dont fancy coming down to my local and having a chat with a few of my barstooler mates.Even they could not fail to see the logic in your argument.

**Fingal hoop** · 17/08/2007, 10:16 AM

Why? Because Celtic are Irish. Do they play in Ireland? No. Did they have any Irish players playing when they played us or Pats? No. Naw, but they're Irish.[/QUOTE]

Celtic are as Irish as James Connolly

**Fingal hoop** · 17/08/2007, 10:19 AM

Celtic's support here has grown huely in recent years. Success and tv coverage has a lot to do with it and unfortunately the sectarian element has an attraction for some.[/QUOTE]

How is it sectarian ?? could it not be political - Celtic represent the Irish Diaspora in Glasgow & many people like Celtic because of this. There is a republican element with Celtic as well-not sure where this is sectarian?

**OneRedArmy** · 17/08/2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Fingal hoop

Celtic are as Irish as James Connolly

who was as Irish as Billy Connolly...

**OneRedArmy** · 17/08/2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Fingal hoop

How is it sectarian ?? could it not be political - Celtic represent the Irish Diaspora in Glasgow & many people like Celtic because of this. There is a republican element with Celtic as well-not sure where this is sectarian?

Try any Old Firm game.

**Fingal hoop** · 17/08/2007, 10:23 AM

Anyway most Celtic fans there last night Ive spoken to were up for Drogheda

**Fingal hoop** · 17/08/2007, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

who was as Irish as Billy Connolly...

exactly -its not a black & white issue- most irish id guess would consider JC Irish or at least recognise he is part of the Irish diaspora-why not the same with Celtic