Drogs v Helsingborgs

[A face]

its a joke eirebhoy Irish people shouting for a Swedish team or cheering a goald that once played for a foreign team. There is no defending it if you believe in nationalism. If you dont well they thats fair enough.

I would even bring nationalism in to defend it, its 'slow' and outlines how completely off the wall it actually is.

[sligoman]

(i backed helsingborgs but was cheering on the drogs)

A loser all round so?

[NeilMcD]

I would even bring nationalism in to defend it, its 'slow' and outlines how completely off the wall it actually is.

I am saying that because if you dont believe in nationalism or even in the idea of countries well then that does open your belief system to think you can support whatever you want.

But its not something I agree with.

Was the game any good. I heard it was a cracker.

[eirebhoy]

its a joke eirebhoy Irish people shouting for a Swedish team or cheering a goald that once played for a foreign team.

I never defended Irish people cheering on a Swedish team. Of course they're going to cheer on Larsson. It's impossible not to love Henrik Larsson as a Celtic fan.

As far as patriotism goes. I'd support Joe Bloggs in the Rock, Paper, Scissors world final if he was Irish. One thing that will always be the case with me is I'll support the Irish national team more than anything. Some people can't understand why someone from Pearse street who never heard of the league of Ireland for the first 15 years of his life doesn't support a team in the league. I can't understand how any Irish football fan can't support our national team.

These kind of debates are the one thing that really anger me. People that slag off the likes of me who don't support an Irish club team. I opened a thread on this forum a good while ago with good reason. I wanted to find out how people began supporting a LOI team. As expected, pretty much all of them either lived locally or were brought to the stadium by family, friends, or other. Very few just decided at the age of 20 odd that they're going to support a LOI team and love them forever more. I'm a Celtic supporter. 99% of Irish Celtic supporters that post on the football forums are not the steriotypical Celtic shirt wearing knacker. Please distinguish between the Irish Celtic fan and the knacker. There's about 100 times more Liverpool fans in this country than Celtic fans.

[Flume]

Lads i tipped over to the game.And contrary to whats being said here drogheda started with TWO UP FRONT!!!! It was a typical 4-4-2 and stayed that way for the game.

I was in the connaught st side of dalyer and i have to say i am embarased to be irish tonight. A group of about 50 or 60 morons visibly delighted jumping up and down screaming and celebrating when a sweedish man, who used to play for a scottish team scored for a sweedish team against an irish side, one of our own sides!Its no wonder our league is the way it is with it having to rely on people like this.

On the game i thought drogs were diabolical first half and made a lot of mistakes. Their number 6 almost gifted a goal to your man up front with larsson. They improved dramatically 2nd half though and really took the game to the sweedes. Thought they deserved to win tbh and i think they can beat them over there.I hope they do. for the leagues sake!

[eirebhoy]

I was in the connaught st side of dalyer and i have to say i am embarased to be irish tonight. A group of about 50 or 60 morons visibly delighted jumping up and down screaming and celebrating when a sweedish man, who used to play for a scottish team scored for a sweedish team against an irish side, one of our own sides!Its no wonder our league is the way it is with it having to rely on people like this.

Is this all we're going to get?

Did Drogheda fill Dalymount?

If not, what is the bloody problem?

I just honestly believe you don't realise how much of a hero Henrik Larsson is to the Celtic fans. They were there to cheer him on. Again, just put the shoe on the other foot.

What do you mean by "rely on people like this"? Is the plan to turn a 30 year old Celtic fan into a fan of Bohs or Galway? It's too late now for people to start supporting a team in the LOI. The people you're relying on are the kids that aren't old enough to read the papers or watch the news.

It's easy to come out with all this rubbish but actually think about it. Think about how you started supporting the team you do. Think about the fact that you could be a Celtic fan like me. You simply wouldn't have the choice, as much as you'd like to think you would.

[MeathDrog]

On the game i thought drogs were diabolical first half and made a lot of mistakes. Their number 6 almost gifted a goal to your man up front with larsson. They improved dramatically 2nd half though and really took the game to the sweedes. Thought they deserved to win tbh and i think they can beat them over there.I hope they do. for the leagues sake!

A bit harsh.Droheda were ok in the first half.They werent diabolical.They struggled to keep up for the first 20 minutes or so but thats only because the opposition were a lot better than them.

[MeathDrog]

Is this all we're going to get?

Did Drogheda fill Dalymount?

If not, what is the bloody problem?

I just honestly believe you don't realise how much of a hero Henrik Larsson is to the Celtic fans. They were there to cheer him on. Again, just put the shoe on the other foot.

What do you mean by "rely on people like this"? Is the plan to turn a 30 year old Celtic fan into a fan of Bohs or Galway? It's too late now for people to start supporting a team in the LOI. The people you're relying on are the kids that aren't old enough to read the papers or watch the news.

It's easy to come out with all this rubbish but actually think about it. Think about how you started supporting the team you do. Think about the fact that you could be a Celtic fan like me. You simply wouldn't have the choice, as much as you'd like to think you would.

Look, any of the celtic fans who were just there to see Henrik Larsson and cheered when he scored were just complete, idiotic morons, and that's that

[Flume]

Is this all we're going to get?

Did Drogheda fill Dalymount?

If not, what is the bloody problem?

I just honestly believe you don't realise how much of a hero Henrik Larsson is to the Celtic fans. They were there to cheer him on. Again, just put the shoe on the other foot.

What do you mean by "rely on people like this"? Is the plan to turn a 30 year old Celtic fan into a fan of Bohs or Galway? It's too late now for people to start supporting a team in the LOI. The people you're relying on are the kids that aren't old enough to read the papers or watch the news.

It's easy to come out with all this rubbish but actually think about it. Think about how you started supporting the team you do. Think about the fact that you could be a Celtic fan like me. You simply wouldn't have the choice, as much as you'd like to think you would.

Im also an arsenal fan and say if an arsenal great such as ian wright came to play someone like cork while playing for his hometown club in european competition then yeah there is no doubt that i would go! BUT there is absolutely no way that i would celebrate wildly if he scored.I would marvel at his ability but jump, clap and scream with delight, no way. Forgive me but I fail to see the logic in wishing to see a club of your own nationality to fail.especially for the reasons above.

And as for the fans that we're relying on yes your right it is kids that we have to rely on now.But if they dont read papers etc i'll give you one guess who they're going to turn to for guidence on who to support ----- the parents!!

[onceahoop]

Eirebhoy, all I can say is I find it hard to believe that someone lived in Pearse Street until the age of fifteen and never heard of the Eircom League or League of Ireland. As for your last few posts on here, there's none so blind as those who do not see....

[NeilMcD]

Sorry but eirebhoy I became a member of Bohs this year. I grew up a large part of my life in Clare so it was the Irish national team for me. I watched English football on tv and picked Spurs as my team as I liked and met Chris Hughton.. However over the last 2 years I have started going to Bohs with mates and this season I became a member. Spurs lost the other night and it paled into comparison how I felt when Bohs beat rovers the other week or when Bohs lost to Drogheda with a last minute goal.

[eirebhoy]

BUT there is absolutely no way that i would celebrate wildly if he scored.I would marvel at his ability but jump, clap and scream with delight, no way. Forgive me but I fail to see the logic in wishing to see a club of your own nationality to fail.especially for the reasons above.

I agree. I'd need proof that these celebrations were nothing but 100% natural though. I'm serious though. If a person loved Larsson so much that they were so overjoyed and celebrated "wildly" then what's a man to do? If these people just celebrated wildly for the same reasons people fake a little cry in a funeral parlour then they're idiots.

[MeathDrog]

I agree. I'd need proof that these celebrations were nothing but 100% natural though. I'm serious though. If a person loved Larsson so much that they were so overjoyed and celebrated "wildly" then what's a man to do? If these people just celebrated wildly for the same reasons people fake a little cry in a funeral parlour then they're idiots.

If there were Larsson fans there all they had to do was appluad, not to cheer and jump up and down like an idiot when they have just scored against an IRISH team

[eirebhoy]

Eirebhoy, all I can say is I find it hard to believe that someone lived in Pearse Street until the age of fifteen and never heard of the Eircom League or League of Ireland.

I was being a little sarcastic. I can't remember anything of when I was 15 to be perfectly honest. I just know that as a kid I didn't care about the LOI. There's nothing that can be done about that. How did you start supporting rovers anyway?

Sorry but eirebhoy I became a member of Bohs this year. I grew up a large part of my life in Clare so it was the Irish national team for me. I watched English football on tv and picked Spurs as my team as I liked and met Chris Hughton.. However over the last 2 years I have started going to Bohs with mates and this season I became a member. Spurs lost the other night and it paled into comparison how I felt when Bohs beat rovers the other week or when Bohs lost to Drogheda with a last minute goal.

I think a few on here will know that I did the same with Pats. I brought my nephew to a few games a couple of years ago. That just stopped happening after a few months. I still watch the LOI of course. I know the players and that. I just have no affection for a particular team and that's not going to change. I was on the edge of my seat for Shels v Depor though. I wouldn't miss a match like that for the world.

[Dodge]

I was on the edge of my seat for Shels v Depor though. I wouldn't miss a match like that for the world.

The only time I've ever been a Depor fan.

BTW Larsson hates the LOI. Scored in his last european game in Dublin too. When he scored against Pats he lifted his shirt to reveal a vest that had written on it "Shove your coefficient up your arse!"

[MariborKev]

What do you mean by "rely on people like this"? Is the plan to turn a 30 year old Celtic fan into a fan of Bohs or Galway? It's too late now for people to start supporting a team in the LOI. The people you're relying on are the kids that aren't old enough to read the papers or watch the news.

It's easy to come out with all this rubbish but actually think about it. Think about how you started supporting the team you do. Think about the fact that you could be a Celtic fan like me. You simply wouldn't have the choice, as much as you'd like to think you would.

I'm still confused about what point you are trying to make but I'll answer what I can decipher

Irrelevant point about getting someone to support Galway or Bohs. Derry City were out of football for an entire generation and were still able to attract people of 30 and over back to games when we entered the LOI. Those fans grew up supporting English clubs as they didn't have a choice, but they came back to Derry City when DCFC became a senior club once more. There is nothing to stop people supporting their eL side and then having an English team etc that they follow. It isn't what I do, but I can see why they do.

As for attracting kids you are correct. However to many kids your da is your hero at that age. If he slags off the League of Ireland then the child is more than likely to grow up with the same attitude.

You're right about the difference between Celtic shirt wearing knackers and "real Celtic fans". Knackers wearing Celtic shirts were too busy robbing houses, stealing cars and sniffing glue to be at the match tonight. It was "real" Celtic fans who were there tonight. To worship a former player. Alright, turn up and applaud him on and off the pitch and whatever but get behind the Irish team, the team from your country. No instead these patriots decided that cheering his every touch and celebrating his goal as if it were scored by the home side.

You're upset about the stick people are getting for supporting Larsson over an Irish team. Try being a eL fan. Try being a Derry fan when we played Celtic in Lansdowne or when Pats played them in Tolka. Try being in a stadium when a large part of the home crowd, proclaiming themselves to be Irish, are supporting a non-Irish team over an Irish one.

Why? Because Celtic are Irish. Do they play in Ireland? No. Did they have any Irish players playing when they played us or Pats? No. Naw, but they're Irish.

[Sheridan]

Eirebhoy, it sounds like you're not so much interested in football as identity-based chauvinism. I think you'll find a lot of members of this forum would have professed some vague affiliation for Celtic before they got into football and grew out of it.

Express your indignation to any genuine football fan anywhere in the world and see which side of the argument they come down on.

[sfc red]

What absolute intolerable goons. Their whole argument is "Celtic are Irish" yet they go cheer for a Swede who used to play for a Scottish team, against an Irish team. Idiots.

Eirebhoy: Delighted you're ashamed to wear a Celtic jersey in town. You should be.

[dcfcsteve]

Ahh go way out of that. I'm always pro-Irish teams. My heart was still with Drogheda tonight. If it wasn't for the bloody idiotic moronic attitude to people on here about Celtic I wouldn't have cared less whether Larsson scored. Just like I couldn't care whether he scores any other time.

Put yourself in my shoes. I'm being branded a knuckle dragger because I support Celtic. I'd be embarassed to wear a Celtic shirt in Dublin because I know too well what a lot of people are thinking. Get over it. I support a foreign team. I'm bloody raging typing this. I love Celtic. That's not a decision I made and it's something that can't be changed. Any football fan should know that feeling.

How was supporting Celtic not a decision you made by the way ?

[Réiteoir]

I really enjoyed seeing a player who played for Worcester City (my local side here in England) last season, Justin Thompson.

But I'm not going to get on a plane all the way to the Northwest United States just to cheer him on in a League game for his new club there (Portl;and Timbers) against a Canadian side.

I mean that would never happen anywhere on Earth - it'd be sheer MADNESS!

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