ENOUGH ALREADY - Stop Slagging Refs!!!

**micls** · 13/08/2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by KevB76

Sorry bud, I dont believe that for a second, we've all seen ref's taking abuse at junior and scoolboy level. Dont think anyone thinks in a moment of so called passion "oops, I better tone it down, he's not paid so much". Sniping at their pay is just petty and frankly I dont think its anybodys business, not the likes of you and me anyways. And yes I've heard people grumbling about the pay that junior and schoolboy refs get as well !

I said I wouldnt be as bothered. I cant speak for everyone. So you're saying that you dont expect better quality from someone paid say a few hundred Euro to do a job as opposed 50 euro to do a job? I certainly do. (Random figures)

**Aaron** · 13/08/2007, 10:17 PM

Yet another poor decision at the Brandy last Friday night. Here was Longfords penalty decision

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...bride/peno.jpg

**kkontour** · 13/08/2007, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yet another poor decision at the Brandy last Friday night. Here was Longfords penalty decision

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...bride/peno.jpg

You sure
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z...der-long-1.jpg

**Aaron** · 13/08/2007, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by kkontour

You sure
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z...der-long-1.jpg

Yes I am sure because someone has obviously edited that

Look at the line beside Pizza's leg, they forgot to edit that, they forgot to do the line from the byline to the box

**soccerc** · 13/08/2007, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yes I am sure because someone has obviously edited that

Look at the line beside Pizza's leg, they forgot to edit that, they forgot to do the line from the byline to the box

Shadows, Shadows, Shadows

**kkontour** · 13/08/2007, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yes I am sure because someone has obviously edited that

Look at the line beside Pizza's leg, they forgot to edit that, they forgot to do the line from the byline to the box

Sorry
forgot the

KK

**KevB76** · 13/08/2007, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by micls

I said I wouldnt be as bothered. I cant speak for everyone. So you're saying that you dont expect better quality from someone paid say a few hundred Euro to do a job as opposed 50 euro to do a job? I certainly do. (Random figures)

No, I'm saying I expect a better standard of reffing because of the level they are reffing at, not because of what they are paid. I'm saying their pay should never be an issue.

The issue is their competence, and on that matter, I think we do get mostly the best refs available in the el. This is clear to see when you follow junior football, taking limerick district league as an example, someof the refs used in div 3b are ridiculous, they are clearly better in div.1b, and there is a noticable step up in the standard for div 1a. Then when I watch an el game I can honestly say the standard in general is better again compared to the junior refs (although they're are some very good junior refs who could easily make the step up but not all want to).

**pete** · 13/08/2007, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Juanace

They make calls as they see them, honestly. Yeah they make mistakes. But you dont see refs coming out slagging off managers and players for their mistakes. Yet managers have carte blache to say what they like, personal in some cases, and the ref just has to take it!!

For all the abuse eL refs get it is the lines-people who are so much worse. I have lost count of the times when the ref makes the decision for throw ins but linesman is closer. If a lineman does not get to make throw in decisions all he is left with a guessing at offside calls as he is 20 yards behind the play.

Btw they are linemen as to be called an Assistant you need to actually assist the referee.

**fbtn** · 14/08/2007, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by pete

For all the abuse eL refs get it is the lines-people who are so much worse. I have lost count of the times when the ref makes the decision for throw ins but linesman is closer. If a lineman does not get to make throw in decisions all he is left with a guessing at offside calls as he is 20 yards behind the play.

Agree wholeheartedly.

**fbtn** · 14/08/2007, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yet another poor decision at the Brandy last Friday night. Here was Longfords penalty decision

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...bride/peno.jpg

Pizza should have walked then? Last man back by the look of it there.

**Dazzy** · 14/08/2007, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by fbtn

Pizza should have walked then? Last man back by the look of it there.

Yes he should have. Dont think he even got a card.

**bellavistaman** · 14/08/2007, 7:57 AM

Watching the weekly last night, referees didnt do themselves any favours again.

I was giving out about the ref sendin the Rams player off the weekend, must apologise it was all the linesman doing.

**Risteard** · 14/08/2007, 11:55 AM

What was the first Bray player sent off for?

**onceahoop** · 14/08/2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by pete

For all the abuse eL refs get it is the lines-people who are so much worse. I have lost count of the times when the ref makes the decision for throw ins but linesman is closer. If a lineman does not get to make throw in decisions all he is left with a guessing at offside calls as he is 20 yards behind the play.

Btw they are linemen as to be called an Assistant you need to actually assist the referee.

I don't know how they do it in Senior football but at junior and schoolboy level I've met refs who'll tell you to put up the flag when the ball goes out and they'll make the decision as to which way it goes. Now that's all rght if they keep up with the play but when they don't......!!

**bellavistaman** · 14/08/2007, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Risteard

What was the first Bray player sent off for?

Gettin hammered by a 2 foot lunge

**sligoman** · 14/08/2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Risteard

What was the first Bray player sent off for?

Same as Ventre, two footed tackle.

**bellavistaman** · 14/08/2007, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Same as Ventre, two footed tackle.

bit harsh on him though wasnt it. considering he came out second best.

**sligoman** · 14/08/2007, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

bit harsh on him though wasnt it. considering he came out second best.

His own fault for not being as good as Ventre at it

**NY Hoop** · 14/08/2007, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by pete

For all the abuse eL refs get it is the lines-people who are so much worse. I have lost count of the times when the ref makes the decision for throw ins but linesman is closer. If a lineman does not get to make throw in decisions all he is left with a guessing at offside calls as he is 20 yards behind the play.

Btw they are linemen as to be called an Assistant you need to actually assist the referee.

Exactly. When Martin was pulled down by the sligo keeper a few weeks ago the linesman was looking directly at it.

It all comes back to respect for the ref. There is none because they dont communicate. Arrogance and attitude problems seems to define their personality. Good example is Kelly.

And yet if you call them into question you get fined. Joeshop.

Although Richard Damienson was wrong about McGuinness' challenge. In all fairness ref did well there.

KOH