The new guy McCann for Bohs shouted abuse at the linesman for not flagging for a wild over-the-top challenge from the Rovers left back (worse than the first yellow Rossiter received) and the linesman called the ref over and got him to give him a yellow. Second half, the Rovers number 7 screamed abuse at the same linesman, effing and blinding, for about 40 seconds and he did nothing.
What are you actually allowed to say to them?
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All i can think if posting the Bohs disallowed goal, seriously enough in that moment alone to abuse refs and linesman for years.
Fair enough if it was a dodgy tackle and the ref was blindsided or other physics related thing made him not see the incident, but when a player cracks in a volley from 25 yards and it goes into the net and comes back out and both ref and lino disallow it....well your digging your own grave there.
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I find your post hard to accept Juanace after watchin ELW and specifically the Rovers-Derry game. In that match there were 3 late tackles, 2 from Rovers and 1 from Derry. The 3 tackles were all similar, all late and all deserving bookings. How can the ref of the game justify NOT sending the 2 Rovers players off and sending the Derry player off? I it poor reffereeing or is he being biased, I know what my answer is.
I called it spot on refereeing!Originally Posted by City till I Die
I find your post hard to accept Juanace after watchin ELW and specifically the Rovers-Derry game. In that match there were 3 late tackles, 2 from Rovers and 1 from Derry. The 3 tackles were all similar, all late and all deserving bookings. How can the ref of the game justify NOT sending the 2 Rovers players off and sending the Derry player off? I it poor reffereeing or is he being biased, I know what my answer is.
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Saw that last night and was appalled. All 3 tackles were red card offences IMO. All 2 footed, late and over the top. No place in the game for that.I find your post hard to accept Juanace after watchin ELW and specifically the Rovers-Derry game. In that match there were 3 late tackles, 2 from Rovers and 1 from Derry. The 3 tackles were all similar, all late and all deserving bookings. How can the ref of the game justify NOT sending the 2 Rovers players off and sending the Derry player off? I it poor reffereeing or is he being biased, I know what my answer is.
According to Sky, Premiership refs are coming down hard on 2 footed tackles this year. Isn't a 2 footed tackle always a red card offense? Not just this year?
IMO the ref in the Derry game should be suspended for a few matches for putting the players safety in jepordy during the game.
The refs are dire bad but the linesmen are a disgrace!!!!
I'd agree with that. It is as if the assistant refs deliberately don't get involved. Maybe this is to avoid stepping on the ref's toes, but the ref and the game overall would benefit if they would get with the program.
If they would flag just some of the stuff they obviously see the standard of officiating would shoot up.
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Wow, well at least i got a response to this!
From your responses to date im glad i've quit refereeing.
I've been on all sides of the game, playing, coaching, watching etc so i can see all viewpints.
I wonder how many of you have actually gone out on a Saturday or Sunday morning and stood in the middle to do a game.
I did it for 6 years, im only 24 and its by far the most challenging thing i've ever done.
I've been spat at, assulted, called the most unbelievable things, yet i kept going back because i dont like to quit and, dare i say it, i was good.
Let me make it plain for you, Juanace. Eircom League refs don't get a hard time because the overwhelming majority of them aren't competent enough to control professional games anywhere in the world.
This is bulls**t. Alan Kelly (and i dont know him!) just did Inter v. Valenica. Irish refs have done Champions League games, European and World Qualifiers and are contiually getting better gigs.
The get a hard time because they can (and sometimes do) p1ss all over the hard work done by players, coaches, club officials and volunteers the length and breadth of the country on the basis of nothing more than a momentary whim or personal vendetta, and do it with complete and utter impunity.
This point is one of the reasons i quit. Im fed up with this label. Its bull. Absolute bull. For 99% of refs i know would never do this. I do not believe it. It is not true. I dont care how you justify it.
Yes there is the occassional bad egg, ill agree to that. But in 6 years refereeing i've never come across a biased ref, or a ref who screwed a team over for a personnal vendetta. Incompetence yes, stupdiity yes, cheating no.
For all of you who've had a pop, had a dig, do a beginners course, go check out the FAI website. There gagging for refs. Ireland has 1 ref to every 10 games. The UEFA average is 1 in 2. They certainly need ye. if the'ye all so incompetent and biased do it yourselves.
Can't find any info on ref's courses on FAI site. Can you link?
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Damien Hancock hates Drogs- He is certainly incompetent but I belive it goes beyond that and he is biased too.
all the kelly hate rams, thats 4 of them the kids and daddy, daddy went wild there giving out to stewarts at or game whne we scored a late winner because someone mooned him earlier in teh game,
refereing is suppose to be transparent, but theres a 20 foot thick solid wall in the way of the glass, prime example here(alan kelly, whos daddy is head of the reffing panel in the eircom league f***s up a goal decision he doesn't give a totally obvious gaol that even the keeper kicked it back to the center circle to restart, his punnishment was a three game (game, not weeks or months but games) ban, he was assigned three game in five days, he was given the ban monday was reffin that saturday) also he suppose to be the best ref in ireland, who actually decides this
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It's based on the UEFA Assessment Rankings
As for courses - iirc there are two coming up at the end of August at the ALSAA (near to Dublin Airport) - best to call the FAI for details: (01) 7037 500
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By the way the guys saying Alan Kelly is biased towards Dublin teams?? Why the f**k would he be?? He's not even a Dub!![/QUOTE]
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I think the refs have to earn respect, and probably need more training on how to avoid becoming the centre of attention.
Every single match report I read of the Bohs-Rovers match called Rossiter's sending-off by one D. Hancock as 'harsh', which is sports hack speak for simply daft. Rossiter, who apparently had never been booked up until the Longford match last week, will now miss the final over this idiocy. Hancock was the most excitable person at the game - that takes a lot at a Bohs-Rovers derby.
And we cannot forget the immortal Alan Kelly fiasco at Bray.
Some unreal refereeing decisions for us this year:
(1) Alan Murphy red carded for back pedalling into the ref.
(2) Monaghan player sent off and then gets back into the wall. Referee waves play on.
(3) JP Kelly not even booked for breaking John Brophy's leg with a two footed tackle.
(4) Shels player the subject of a two footed tackle right in front of the lineswoman. Lineswoman steps over Shels player.
(5) Dav Walsh sent off for giving the ball back to the keeper.
Just on a point of correction, 2 sons and a father makes 3!!!
On the rest of your post, where do you get your information and statistics? I believe the game he was reprimanded for last year was the Bray v Bohs 'goal that never was'. He refereed the next weekend and then was 'dropped' 'rested' 'Suspended' whatever you want to call it for almost 6 weeks. This is fact. His first game back was an U-21 game. This is also fact. He had no choice but to hold his hand up and accept the punishment, what happened was unacceptable but it happened and was dealt with. He also wrote and apologised to Bohemians Football, Paul Devlin (who hit the shot) and the Supporters of Bohemians FC for the mistake that he made. This information does not make it into the public domain but i would class that as being held accountable and accepting the consequences of actions.
I have said it before, the fact is that when you have a league with only 12 teams in the Prem along with 14 referees and 10 teams in the first with approximately 14 referees then it is an unhealthy situation for all parties. Familiarity breeds contempt. Supporters see the same referees too often during a season and supporters being supporters will only remeber the 'bad' decisions. Thats a fact of life. In other countries if a referee gets to referee a club 3 times in a season it is deemed a lot. Here a referee could referee the same club up to 8 times in a season. That is unhealthy. You could have the best referee on the planet come to this country to referee at the beginning of a season and by the end of it supporters would have battered him/her from pillar to post with there opinions on how poor he/she is. Its a numbers game and unfortunately numbers are not in refs favour.
Opinions will always be part and parcel of football and that is what football is all about. Educated opinions will always come to the fore though. For all those on this thread who have offered an opinion on how bad refereeing standards are in this country i have to ask have you ever refereed a football match at any level? If the answer is no, then i challenge you to go and do it. You may even like it. If you do go away and take up the challenge then i ask that you come back and offer an honest opinion of the experience.
For all of those who may be thinking about giving it a shot, i urge you to contact the FAI and ask for dates on the next available course date and venue. August is traditionally the month that they are held.
agree with what you said, most refs go out to do things properley, mistakes happen in every walk of life! and in a high pressure situation such as a football match things will always be amped up. I have to say though, there have been some crazy decision in recent eL seasons which shouldnt have happened.
I disagree. They are worse than crap. In fact they are so crap that they appear to be biased.In general they have improved since we came up this season but Twomey who reffed us v Waterford recently has to be the worst Ive seen between the 2 Divisions. Why not highlight the linesmen while were at it they all need to grow a pair of balls and flag what they see.
"Are those my feet" Fr Jack Hackett
My favourite has to be Rhona , however the ball crosses the line you never know which way te **** she is gonna flag for a throw ,goal kick or corner you may aswell just flip a coin
And why dont you grow a pair of balls and get out of the comfort of the stand and become a referee. Every level of football in this country has a shortage of referees and its so easy to see why with the amount of rubbish you people write on this forum.I disagree. They are worse than crap. In fact they are so crap that they appear to be biased.
To that Cobh supporter who thinks we breed ****e referees, our culture breeds knockers like you. You played the game, support the game and if you think you can do better, why dont you referee the game. But let me know when you are brave enough to do your first game and we will all travel to see how ****e you are!!
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