Irish Abroad 2007/2008

**RiffRaff** · 13/11/2007, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfie

I hope the fate of being converted to a full back doesn't befall him.

the papers yesterday were linking Joey O'Brien with a move to Sheff utd in January

**OwlsFan** · 13/11/2007, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by Supreme feet

Hope so. We've a lot of central midfield players playing in the Championship, and we need a few of them to make the step up. We can go on about potential, and the likes of Garvan, McCann and Potter playing well for second-tier clubs, but they'll only play at a higher level if they really deserve it. Whelan's at the age now where he should be looking to establish himself, though I fear that if he goes to Bolton, he may still find himself in the Championship next year.

Hope not. Better to prosper with a decent club on the up

than drop back to the Championship with a club in decline. He will never be a top international player I am afraid. He's in the Liam Miller category but not quite as good. Remember he was let go by Man City.

**tetsujin1979** · 13/11/2007, 4:15 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Remember he was let go by Man City.

He wasn't released, his contract expired, and since Keegan couldn't guarantee him first team football, he left.

**tetsujin1979** · 13/11/2007, 4:16 PM

Irish Abroad for Monday, 12th November 2007: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroa...ate=2007-11-12

**dr_peepee** · 14/11/2007, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

He wasn't released, his contract expired, and since Keegan couldn't guarantee him first team football, he left.

Was that not Elliot?? Or was it both??

**tetsujin1979** · 14/11/2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by dr_peepee

Was that not Elliot?? Or was it both??

Both left Man City under similar circumstances, no guarantee of first team football, but I'm not sure if Elliot's contract had expired. There was a transfer fee, decided by a tribunal, so I don't think so.

**Stuttgart88** · 14/11/2007, 10:32 AM

The Examiner says that Duff is 2 weeks away from a return.

**dr_peepee** · 14/11/2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Both left Man City under similar circumstances, no guarantee of first team football, but I'm not sure if Elliot's contract had expired. There was a transfer fee, decided by a tribunal, so I don't think so.

If you're under 23 and you leave when your contract expires there's a fee involved, set by tribunal..... (I think. I'm no EG when it come to recalling frames of references)

**dr_peepee** · 14/11/2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

The Examiner says that Duff is 2 weeks away from a return.

Will we ever see the real Duffer again? I never saw the likes of Brady, and I obviously remember McGrath and Keane, but I've never enjoyed watching a player as much as Duff circa '02... Quality!!

**OwlsFan** · 14/11/2007, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

He wasn't released, his contract expired, and since Keegan couldn't guarantee him first team football, he left.

You sound like my brother many years ago when he was talking about a friend of his being kicked out of a school. I said, "so he was expelled?". "No", he replied, "he was asked to leave".

Semantics. He was let go by City because he wasn't 1st team quality in their opinion.

**tetsujin1979** · 14/11/2007, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

You sound like my brother many years ago when he was talking about a friend of his being kicked out of a school. I said, "so he was expelled?". "No", he replied, "he was asked to leave".

Semantics. He was let go by City because he wasn't 1st team quality in their opinion.

AFAIK he was offered a new contract by City, but he rejected it because they couldn't guarantee him first team football. I still wouldn't say they released him, he left on his own terms.

**youngirish** · 14/11/2007, 5:02 PM

Originally Posted by dr_peepee

If you're under 23 and you leave when your contract expires there's a fee involved, set by tribunal..... (I think. I'm no EG when it come to recalling frames of references)

This is true. Coventry currently are negotiating a fee for Best even though his contract had expired when he moved from Southampton.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 14/11/2007, 5:10 PM

Originally Posted by dr_peepee

If you're under 23 and you leave when your contract expires there's a fee involved, set by tribunal..... (I think. I'm no EG when it come to recalling frames of references)

There's only a fee if the club offers to extend the player's contract.

**tetsujin1979** · 15/11/2007, 12:43 PM

Conor Hourihane is in the Sunderland squad to face Falkirk in a testimonial: http://www.safc.com/home/?page_id=13599

**tetsujin1979** · 16/11/2007, 12:04 PM

Roy O'Donovan scored both goals in Andy Lawrie's testimonial between Sunderland and Falkirk, the game finishing 1-1. Liam Craig was awarded Falkirk's opener, but it took a deflection off O'Donovan.
Roy O'Donovan, Graham Kavanagh and David Connolly all started for Sunderland, Conor Hourihane came on as a second half substitute.
Patrick Cregg, and Graham Barrett played the full 90 minutes for Falkirk.

Falkirk review: http://www.falkirkfc.co.uk/falkirk-n...derland-1.html
Sunderland review: http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=13614

**tetsujin1979** · 16/11/2007, 12:05 PM

According to an internet rumour (and we know how reliable they are) Man City scout Joe Barnes has been taking in every Celtic game this season to watch Aiden McGeady, despite being told he's not for sale.

**gustavo** · 16/11/2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba

quite a few dodgy ones in that list imho....Gerrard top 5 attacking mid??? Kanoute one of the best strikers in the world??? laughable...

The man is consistently one of the top scorers in the best league in the world , makes a good case for himself.

**kdjaC** · 17/11/2007, 1:06 PM

Thornton subbed with hamstring injury got an assit before that.
O Callaghan is on fire and also got an assist.

kdjac

**DmanDmythDledge** · 17/11/2007, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

According to an internet rumour (and we know how reliable they are) Man City scout Joe Barnes has been taking in every Celtic game this season to watch Aiden McGeady, despite being told he's not for sale.

Presumably to fill the right midfield spot that Stephen Ireland currently occupies.