GAA Sectarianism in Fermanagh

[OneRedArmy]

yeah sure fair enough
just that people shouldnt be naive about it, i mean what did he expect, and it is the GAA for chriss sakes

Thats a fair point, but not in the way you intended.

If the GAA publicly acknowledged itself as a sectarian organisation (which I believe it is, at least in the North) then there wouldn't be a problem.

But it masquerades as being non-sectarian, then there is an obvious problem.

Its only the scarity of non-Catholic players that keeps the sectarianism below the horizon.

[pete]

Its only the scarity of non-Catholic players that keeps the sectarianism below the horizon.

While I am not linking the GAA with white supremacy but its a bit like the KKK saying they not racists when all their members are white.

[OneRedArmy]

While I am not linking the GAA with white supremacy but its a bit like the KKK saying they not racists when all their members are white.

The GAA doesn't publicly promote itself as a Catholic-only organisation.

Jack Boothman who was president a while back wasn't a Catholic for instance.

[geysir]

Jack was of the narrow minded persuasion the keep Croker closed to "foreign sports", who gives a feck what his religious persuasion was.

Next we will be having someone with the authoritative head count of prods in the South who are GAA members, all as far as I know type of authority.

While I am not linking the GAA with white supremacy but its a bit like the KKK saying they not racists when all their members are white.

Ah Pete, so refreshing to read your significant contributions
The GAA a bit like the KKK? ...... really?
and I thought it was only soccer that adopted a strict code of segregation inside their grounds, ooops I forgot, that one's regarded as progress.

[Lim till i die]

That's ridiculous LTID. If he was black or Jewish or Muslim or gay it'd be called out of order that he takes stick for it. But because he's just one of "them uns" he's fair game?

Whoa there

You wont find a less sectarian person than me Mr. Ritchie and you can feel free to ask any of the Limerick lads that

What I was getting at was that having read the alleged sectarianism in the paper "You're a black Fcuker" etc I just didn't think there was anything overtly sectarian to the comments

Now maybe, it's Northern slang that I don't understand, if so I apologise

Was just wondering was there a bit more to it is all

While I am not linking the GAA with white supremacy but its a bit like the KKK saying they not racists when all their members are white.

Worst comparison ever

[bennocelt]

Benno Celt there is no call to introduce that type of UDR sh'ite in here.
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, eh its kind of relevant, and was mentioned in all the reports on this matter

guys its not a perfect world, players can be bastar ds on a pitch, and god knows i would imagine Ga players would be the worst

[OneRedArmy]

Now maybe, it's Northern slang that I don't understand, if so I apologise

Yup, its Northern slang and is most certainly sectarian.

[Lim till i die]

Yup, its Northern slang and is most certainly sectarian.

Then I apologise

"Black" = "Prod" how

[onceahoop]

Then I apologise

"Black" = "Prod" how

Married to a Belfast girl and she doesn't even know how the expression came about. But it is sectarian. I suspect it might be something to do with the Black Perceptory (think thats how you spell it)who are an part of the Orange Order and their have own parades later in the year.

[SolitudeRed]

Hmmm! I always associated the term black with the RUC (they were refered to as Black B*****ds by some)

thought is was to do with the old RIC/RUC uniforms which were black and the black and tans and all that!

[pete]

I would guess that the term "black" is used as general insult to anyone who is different or perceived to be less worthy of respect?

Historically white = good or pure & Black is dark or evil.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Married to a Belfast girl and she doesn't even know how the expression came about. But it is sectarian. I suspect it might be something to do with the Black Perceptory (think thats how you spell it)who are an part of the Orange Order and their have own parades later in the year.

Close enough. wiki info on 'The Royal Black Institution' AKA 'The Black Preceptory' here

Then I apologise

"Black" = "Prod" how

Not even quite as simple as that I don't think. I've heard people described (not always derogatorialy either) as "Black Prods". Nowt to do with the LOL of Namibia -I'm guessing this would mean they are not only members of one of the reformed churches but are unionist in their outlook and, perhaps most relevant, have socio-cultural interests that involve jay-walking while decked out in your sunday best, some curtain trim and a silly hat while being cheered on by some chavs in Rangers tops swilling unrefridgerated tins of McEwans.

The insertion of the 'Black' as an adjective or pronoun would in that sense be used to differentiate from 'Prods' who aren't @rsed with any of that or 'Prods' who also happen to be nationalist.

As with all things on this crazy little island of ours -local deviations will occur in application and measurement.

[SolitudeRed]

Said on the news today that this guy has decided to go back and play GAA after meeting with the county board and getting an apology, don't think anyone was disciplined over the sectarianism though!

[pete]

Said on the news today that this guy has decided to go back and play GAA after meeting with the county board and getting an apology, don't think anyone was disciplined over the sectarianism though!

Disciplining someone would be admitting it existed.

[OneRedArmy]

There must be a mountain under that GAA carpet, the amount of things that have been brushed under it over the years...........

which reminds me of Peter Quinn's famous line when he was tasked with investigating "alleged" under the table payments to GAA players and coaches at club and county levels.

"Not only could I not find evidence of payments I couldn't even find the tables under which the payments were made".

Wonderful organisation......

[Docboy]

In fairness there was nothing under the table about the apology, it was hands up stuff.

[paul_oshea]

the organistaion is made up of the people, its the people of ireland that are the problem, not the organisation.

[Dodge]

the organistaion is made up of the people, its the people of ireland that are the problem, not the organisation.

A certain sector of Ireland. Please don't try and say it represents all of us

[paul_oshea]

A certain sector of Ireland. Please don't try and say it represents all of us

very good point, but dodge i would have to say you would be in the minority. the GAA has huge support and numbers ( and these are the people that make up this organistation and for good and bad they represent the GAA ) in ireland, whether you want to admit it or not is another thing though and more importantly i cant be arsed to debate it on here as its done to the death.

[Dodge]

Massive difference between the amount of people who look at the odd game in "the championship" and fully paid members of the GAA paul.

I think you'll find the vast, vast majority of people are most certainly not members of any GAA club, however much interest they have in the sports