Longford 1-0 UCD

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 7:03 PM

Harsh Gregg had one bad game and he was dropped

is that not harsh?

**Bald Student** · 23/07/2007, 7:15 PM

Originally Posted by thegit

Harsh Gregg had one bad game and he was dropped

is that not harsh?

It's less harsh than dropping him more often which, I think, you're suggesting.

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 7:30 PM

Thats not what Im saying at all I just think QUigley didnt deserve to be dropped in the first place.... Yes he might want a move to a different team but if he isnt playing your not going to get the money you want.... I just think its stupid to not be playing your best players and he is a better player than Gregg, fact! maybe if he played more you wouldnt find UCD in the possition there in.

**Bald Student** · 23/07/2007, 7:34 PM

Playing Quigley more often means playing Gregg less often, there's no getting around that.

I don't think we'd be much higher in the table if Quigley had been playing. I can't think of any points Gregg cost us except the one against Shams and there's no guarantee that Quigley wouldn't have had the odd blooper had he been playing all season.

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 7:38 PM

Fairenough! its all opinions. maybe gregg might get the next ireland B cap

**Poor Student** · 23/07/2007, 7:39 PM

Quigley got injured, Gregg played ok in his place and Quigley seemed/seems to be for the off so Gregg wasn't dropped again to accommodate him. If you think Quigley's dropping is harsh just remember how he won his place in the team.

**Bald Student** · 23/07/2007, 7:43 PM

Originally Posted by thegit

Fairenough! its all opinions. maybe gregg might get the next ireland B cap

I think he's english but, in any case, I think we'll agree that there are bigger problems in the UCDD team. Either keeper is up to standard.

**Schumi** · 23/07/2007, 7:46 PM

Dropping Gregg after the Rovers game is no more or less harsh than dropping Quigley after missing a game earlier in the season. Both are good keepers and I'm quite happy with either in goal. I marginally prefer Quigley because he's generally more composed with backpasses but it's not a big deal.

Goalkeeper is the least of our worries at the moment, we've only conceded just over a goal a game. It's surely painfully obvious to anyone that our lack of choice of strikers and (more importantly IMO) the lack of link play between midfield and strikers is more of a problem than our embarrassment of riches between the posts.

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 7:52 PM

I think its a bit s****y actually he put in some pretty good performances over the last two or three years and because he wants to try get away he gets dropped, a little bit of loyalty by Mahon wouldnt have gone astray! ...... maybe it s a bit of karma coming back to him with the bad results lately. I mean how long will Alan Mahon play for ? do you think he will ever be dropped? Im not having a go at him cause he is a nice passer of the ball but i think he is the achilles heel of the team on a lot of occasions.

**Poor Student** · 23/07/2007, 8:14 PM

A solid goalkeeper was dropped three years ago just to make way for Quigley. As I already said Quigley was injured when Gregg came into the team, he wasn't just ruthlessly dropped.

There's no signs of Alan Mahon ever being dropped. Some of our fans who attend U-21 games rate the right back there quite highly, think Declan O'Donnell is his name.

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 8:21 PM

yeah but lets face it Quigley is better than the average solid keeper.... Mahon on the other hand must realise that his legs just cant keep up with the opposition every week.

**Poor Student** · 23/07/2007, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by thegit

yeah but lets face it Quigley is better than the average solid keeper.... Mahon on the other hand must realise that his legs just cant keep up with the opposition every week.

I understand that, but you've got the average solid keeper who has played well and seems to be taking over soon anyway. Do you drop that keeper or blood him in now for the whole season?

**thegit** · 23/07/2007, 8:45 PM

Or do you show a bit lof loyalty and play the best keeper you have and help him to get away and make the club a few quid? if Alan Mahon had a chance to go away do you think he would be dropped in such a vital year in his career

I think not! On another note i think Tony Mc could easily play at the back for a few years yet, he cant keep up with the pace in the middle but he could easily do a job along side mcnally

**Titan** · 24/07/2007, 9:31 AM

[QUOTE=thegit;731011]Or do you show a bit lof loyalty and play the best keeper you have and help him to get away and make the club a few quid? if Alan Mahon had a chance to go away do you think he would be dropped in such a vital year in his career

I think not! On another note i think Tony Mc could easily play at the back for a few years yet, he cant keep up with the pace in the middle but he could easily do a job along side mcnally[/QUOT

Loyalty my arse! If you want to speak about loyalty then Darren isnt showing Pete Much by wanting a move!

To be fair Loyalty doesnt come into it in Football. Everyone does whats best for them so you cant blame (a) Darren for wanting to move to (possibly) a full time club or (b) Pete for looking to the future.

Has there been an official transfer request?
Is he really going anywhere?
I dont know

**John83** · 24/07/2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Yeah, he does bring the ball forward a lot and tries to work it with the left winger. He had an unusually poor game against Longford, only got forward once.

I thought Birmingham was poor against Longford and was happy enough to see him, but that's near enough the first time I've had to say that of him.

Originally Posted by mcglinchey

well im sorry poor student doyle is crap and i hope he reads this and maybe he will get the finger out for once. he can never take the ball by the full back,NEVER,always goes inside and does nothing with the ball,hes worse than limited,you must be wearing rose tinted glasses watching him play.hes rubbish. doesnt look bothered when hes playing by the way.

That's very harsh. He certainly likes to cut inside with the ball, but he often beats a couple of players to do it, and he gets around the outside occasionally too. He works reasonably hard too. He's useful, and we're not exactly stocked with options on the left wing.

Originally Posted by thegit

...Sammon who for some reason know only to himself is afraid to head the ball or he really does have the worst timing for jumping i have ever seen EVER!

This is a favourite theme among the group I watch the games with. It's frustrating, especially given our current goalscoring problems.

I have never seen Mahon score from a set piece why notlet other people have a go I'm sure Mcfaul or Finn are due a turn. Also think Quigley has been treated a bit s***y this year he would get into any other team in LOI.

I don't recall him taking them before this year, and he's been fairly good with them so far. I'm in no rush.

Originally Posted by Sonic

Your all gettin very big for your boots over here! From what Ive seen from UCD in a few games ive seen on four different occasions you yourselves are a very limited team. The result was fully deserved simple as that! The better team won.

I don't think it's out of any disrespect for Longford Sonic. We're just frustrated at yet another defeat. Longford earned it on the night (though it's sickening to lose to a 91st minute goal), and mostly we're complaining about how poor UCD were. We've seen better from this team, and it's very annoying.

Originally Posted by thegit

I think its a bit s****y actually he put in some pretty good performances over the last two or three years and because he wants to try get away he gets dropped, a little bit of loyalty by Mahon wouldnt have gone astray! ...... maybe it s a bit of karma coming back to him with the bad results lately.

If karma came into this, Quigley would have died at the hands of a certain committee member years ago. No, Quigley wanted out, he's getting it. It's not our problem that he's failed to earn a contract on trial elsewhere.

I mean how long will Alan Mahon play for ? do you think he will ever be dropped? Im not having a go at him cause he is a nice passer of the ball but i think he is the achilles heel of the team on a lot of occasions.

Alan Mahon plays because we don't have great alternatives. Pete will bring an U21 into the team when he thinks he's ready, and in the mean time, I'd rather Mahon at right back and leave Kenna in the middle where he belongs.

**pineapple stu** · 28/07/2007, 4:10 PM

Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu

In fairness to Mahon when he takes free kicks he rarely shoots, it's almost always to set up a cross.

Not true; almost any free within shooting range this season has been a shot by Mahon. He's been unlucky on more than one occasion though, so at least has earned a right to take a few, if not all.

This place is getting worse than the Bohs forum.