Any Bohs Care to Comment?

[khoop]

You think any of the Bohs fans who post here approve of this, even covertly? more to the point, do you think anything we say is going to have any effect on the section of our 'support' who go in for this sort of sh**e?

Well it's the same BSC that seem to be made perfectly welcome at Dalymount - and can - for example - hang whatever banners they like, wherever they like.

Maybe that might be a starting point...?

[bohs til i die]

It happened (and happens) 2 minutes from Dalymount. I live around there but thanks for the geography lesson. Bohs are well aware of who these people are - a few minutes on Bebo will enlighten anyone in doubt.

As Dodge said, I asked for Bohs fans comments as they are never shy in coming on here with spurious claims about Rovers fans.

KOH

WAR

Even if 'Bohs' are well aware of who these people are, what do you actually want? The club cannot control what these little kunts do on a public street whether its a mile from Dalymount or 500 miles from Dalymount.

A group of teenagers [presumably] on a Monday night threw a few missiles at a few hoops on a bus and beat up one or two other hoops on the street.

I really actually dont give a ****, the same way you didnt give a flying fukk about 50-60 Hoops, in jersies/scarfs etc attacking 3 busloads of Bohs fans outside Richmond Park in September 2003. Back then I remember you and the rest of the great unwashed claiming it was a public order issue so I suggest you go the nearest cop shop to Dorset Street and whinge to someone there.

[alltogethernow]

Well it's the same BSC that seem to be made perfectly welcome at Dalymount - and can - for example - hang whatever banners they like, wherever they like.

Maybe that might be a starting point...?

khoop, they are not welcome in Dalyer and thats the main reason a lot are barred.

[mypost]

A group of teenagers [presumably] on a Monday night threw a few missiles at a few hoops on a bus and beat up one or two other hoops on the street.

I really actually dont give a ****, the same way you didnt give a flying fukk about 50-60 Hoops, in jersies/scarfs etc attacking 3 busloads of Bohs fans outside Richmond Park in September 2003.

So that makes it alright then?? Try and explain that to someone's family who's son/daughter has the bad luck to be set upon by hooligans representing your club. They didn't throw a few missiles on a Monday night, this is a continous occurence at many of our recent home matches. I don't hear of many Hoops turning up in Phibsboro and Cabra at your home games looking for "something to do".

As it turned out, we were severely punished for the one-off Richer incident, but I guess nothing will happen to your lot.

[sonofstan]

hooligans representing your club.

They don't represent my club.

[Block G Raptor]

While I totally condemn what happened I do get a feeling that it's a taste of your own medicine. You reap what you have sown for a long long time

[DmanDmythDledge]

While I totally condemn what happened I do get a feeling that it's a taste of your own medicine. You reap what you have sown for a long long time

I got the 16 bus to Tolka last night and was lucky that I got to the bus stop earlier than I intended. It's not just about Rovers fans getting a dose of their own medicine (the fans that got injured could quite possibly have never caused any trouble, not that if they did it would be acceptable), it's about innocent people being put in danger because of some scum.

[Block G Raptor]

I got the 16 bus to Tolka last night and was lucky that I got to the bus stop earlier than I intended. It's not just about Rovers fans getting a dose of their own medicine (the fans that got injured could quite possibly have never caused any trouble, not that if they did it would be acceptable), it's about innocent people being put in danger because of some scum.

I agree innocent people are being hurt and as far as I'm concerned following one club or another does not make you a legitimate target. the point I'm making is a certain section of Rovers "FANS" have been at this type of thing for Donkey's years without much retaliation. but it looks as though the birds are coming home to roost and they(the rovers faithfull) don't like it

[dfx-]

As DmanDmythDledge hints at the point is being missed completely.

I have no problem in condemning previous incidents involving Rovers fans and do not use the 'public order excuse'...because most incidents are directly related to a Rovers game for example, Rovers were playing Bohs in Richmond that day.

This is different. This is about public order. It would be like Waterford fans attacking Cork fans at a Cork-Cobh match. Or Sligo fans at a Harps-Derry match. It's preposterous. But it is happening. It is nothing like what has happened at previous Rovers matches. This is the proof it's happening. It no longer matters whether there's a derby or who Rovers are playing...it's no longer under any restrictions.

It was Rovers v. UCD, ffs on a Monday night.

[Raheny Red]

I'm not surprised by this one bit. This Bohs shower have been at many of our games this season and last. They were even at our midweek game V Cobh ffs . However, there's no need to have started this topic as it's going to achieve nothing.

[Mr A]

It is disgusting that this kind of thing is going on. It's a cancer on Irish football and only harms the clubs involved as well as the league, not to mention the innocent victims. One can only hope the scum involved face the full rigour of the law.

[SkStu]

As DmanDmythDledge hints at the point is being missed completely.

I have no problem in condemning previous incidents involving Rovers fans and do not use the 'public order excuse'...because most incidents are directly related to a Rovers game for example, Rovers were playing Bohs in Richmond that day.

This is different. This is about public order. It would be like Waterford fans attacking Cork fans at a Cork-Cobh match. Or Sligo fans at a Harps-Derry match. It's preposterous. But it is happening. It is nothing like what has happened at previous Rovers matches. This is the proof it's happening. It no longer matters whether there's a derby or who Rovers are playing...it's no longer under any restrictions.

It was Rovers v. UCD, ffs on a Monday night.

the fan wasnt attacked at the match or even outside the ground as youre implying. He was attacked in the city centre by scumbags who claim to follow Bohs although many/all of them probably cant get into the ground anymore. Theyre just using the Bohs name as a vehicle to attack Rovers fans.

But i agree that something has to change. But where do we start? We have banned known hooligans from attending our games and beyond that what can the club do? What can the fans do? Form vigilante groups that roam the streets waiting for trouble to break out? Really, what do you lot want us to do? Whats your solution to this?

What are SRFC and Rovers fans doing about their own element? What have they done already to fix the problem? Its all well and good coming on here pointing the finger trying to score points but you should look closer to home yourselves.

And BGR has a point - live by the sword, die by the sword. I remember the days when Rovers fans came onto our message board laughing at the BSC for running away, never get a result against the Rovers etc etc. Now it seems these f*ckheads have accepted the Rovers challenge. Do Rovers fans deny all responsibility for what this rivalry has become?

My sympathies go out to the kid, truly. I hope that Rovers fans felt the same way about the kid standing close to me who got his head split open with a brick outside Richmond. It doesnt hold any water with me that this was at a derby game (as if that justifies it in some way?). Both acts are equally reprehensible.

Rovers asked Bohs to comment. We have. My question to you lot is simple - what do you want us to do about it? Please tell me cos id love to know what it is that Bohemians are doing wrong.

[SkStu]

One can only hope the scum involved face the full rigour of the law.

agreed.

[DmanDmythDledge]

And BGR has a point - live by the sword, die by the sword.

You seem to be missing the point that this latest craze is outside the Bohs vs Rovers rivalry. First of all there is a high chance that many of the Rovers fans that have been attacked have not caused any trouble previously or gotten involved in any BSC/Ultras 'wars'. This is innocent people getting attacked for simply following their team. Secondly a public bus was attacked endangaring men and women, old and young. Why should they suffer?

Ignoring the above lets just say that the only people attacked were Rovers casuals who have a history of causing trouble. Do you think that it's alright for both sides to continue fighting? When will all this stop? Saying they did it first and pointing the finger is a sad excuse to carry out vicsious attacks and justify them.

[Raheny Red]

But i agree that something has to change. But where do we start? We have banned known hooligans from attending our games and beyond that what can the club do? What can the fans do? Form vigilante groups that roam the streets waiting for trouble to break out? Really, what do you lot want us to do? Whats your solution to this?

Why do BFC allow BSC to freely fly their flags in Dalymount?

[BohsPartisan]

See this thread for details of the latest unprovoked attacks on Rovers fans in the Dorset St area by Bohs fans. This is a regular (weekly) occurance and is getting well out of hand.

Last night the 16 bus was attacked yet again, this time before the game and lads were hospitalised. And there were more attacks after the game.

No doubt this thread will be locked and dumped because Rovers are the victims here and everyone knows we're just paranoid.

http://www.srfcultrasforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=3763

KOH

I'll comment after I see indesputable video evidence. If you don't come up with that it didn't happen.

[Block G Raptor]

Ignoring the above lets just say that the only people attacked were Rovers casuals who have a history of causing trouble. Do you think that it's alright for both sides to continue fighting? When will all this stop? Saying they did it first and pointing the finger is a sad excuse to carry out vicsious attacks and justify them.

It is you who is badly missing my point. I was merely pointing out that rovers have been guilty of causing trouble in which innocent bystanders where hurt (I myself was struck by a bottle when they got into the Jodi stand) whilst I know that my example did happen at a game there have been other occasions where rovers have rampaged far away from football stadiums (Hill 16 Pub anyone) and here they are on here spinning this to make it sound like Bohs toerags have suddenly decided that they dont like Rovers and have invented a new type of hooligan activity to target anyone in a rover's shirt and anyone who gets between them and anyone in a rovers shirt.ffs open your eyes its the pot calling the kettle black they're just not used to being on the receiving end of things for a change. I agree there is very little that clubs can do about so called fans outside of the stadium and surrounding areas. It is up to the Guards and they should come down on these skuts like a ton of bricks. I hope this clears things up a bit

[dfx-]

Quite honestly I don't care what Bohs fans think. Bohs fans on their knees apologising (although if you wouldn't mind anyway lads ) isn't going to stop this.

SkStu, my first post. However any comparisons that 'what goes around comes around' is showing ignorance of the point of what happened.

Block G, like at Richmond, Hill 16 and the Jodi were incidents surrounding Bohs Rovers games. This was Rovers v. UCD. When there's a regular incident where Rovers have attacked fans at Bohs v Pats or Bohs v Bray for example, then that is a valid comparison. There was no legitimate or justifiable reason for BSC/BSS or whoever it was to be there last night other than lying in wait.

How sad do you have to be to lie in wait for your 'rivals' to come home from a match v UCD? How bad does it have to get?

[SkStu]

You seem to be missing the point that this latest craze is outside the Bohs vs Rovers rivalry. First of all there is a high chance that many of the Rovers fans that have been attacked have not caused any trouble previously or gotten involved in any BSC/Ultras 'wars'. This is innocent people getting attacked for simply following their team. Secondly a public bus was attacked endangaring men and women, old and young. Why should they suffer?

Ignoring the above lets just say that the only people attacked were Rovers casuals who have a history of causing trouble. Do you think that it's alright for both sides to continue fighting? When will all this stop? Saying they did it first and pointing the finger is a sad excuse to carry out vicsious attacks and justify them.

bullsh*t. You cant selectively quote my post like that and ignore the rest of that paragraph and the question that follows.

To answer your post in full - of course i get the point of this and it is sickening. Of course no innocent bystanders should be subjected to this. Where have i suggested otherwise?

The second part of your post is hypothetical and pointless. To be honest i wouldnt care if we got all the Bohs scum and all the Rovers scum in a big room and let them kill each other. In fact id be pretty happy.

Saying they did it first and pointing the finger?? Please! Im just pointing out the irony of Rovers laughing at Bohs for years for "running away" and then crying when these absolute scumbags accept the Rovers challenge. Its a bit cheeky to say the least.

So what about the rest of my post? What do we do about it Dman? Whats the solution? I want rid of this crap as much as you do.

[SkStu]

Why do BFC allow BSC to freely fly their flags in Dalymount?

Okay, so say we stop them flying flags. What then? Does that solve it? Does that take it off the streets? Is that even really an issue? Ridiculous post. Answer the questions in my post, show that you really care about what can be done to stop this and ill take you seriously.