Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 49

Thread: Eircom League Structure

  1. #1
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts

    Eircom League Structure

    What sort of time frame has the FAI stated regarding the creation of a new A division and u-20's league?

    Also, the reduction to 10 teams in the premier if that is still going ahead.

    _______
    Please delete if this is covered somewhere else. Couldn't see it

  2. #2
    International Prospect DmanDmythDledge's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    DUBLIN
    Posts
    7,789
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    52
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    31
    Thanked in
    16 Posts
    A League is next season, I think the U-20 league is too.

    10 team Premier will happen in 2009.

  3. #3
    Reserves Kildare Lad's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Kildare
    Posts
    631
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    19
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts
    Any Idea when we will know what clubs will make the A Championship?
    Cmon County!

  4. #4
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts
    I vaguely remember it being mentioned of the A league that it would comprise mainly of teams that were in the u-21's who were not already involved in the existing league.

    Not my words now mind.

    Difficult to say if such a thing could be sustained. Would the A league have promotion relegation to first division.

    Personally i doubt it as it would ruin any club getting relegated into it.

    I'm not against ir but im not sure if its a runner.

    If memory serves tho i think the fai have no choice but to implement it

  5. #5
    Now with extra sauce! Dodge's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Insomnia
    Posts
    23,529
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,676
    Thanked in
    1,454 Posts
    AFAIK its to be a mixture of reserve teams and new teams (possibly those in the U21 league) with promotion/relegation play offs between the winner and bottom team in first division. Reserve teams can't be promoted
    54,321 sold - wws will never die - ***
    ---
    New blog if anyone's interested - http://loihistory.wordpress.com/
    LOI section on balls.ie - http://balls.ie/league-of-ireland/

  6. #6
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Reserve teams can't be promoted
    That's a given but i think it might do a lot of harm relegating a club from the 1st.
    Then again i suppose you have to give the A league teams something to play for.

    Would be good for the teams that have been knockin on the eircom league's door the last few years.
    A mixture of reserve and new teams would be good as young players could play at a meaningful competetive level.
    Time will tell if it all works... i really hope it does tho.

    Some teams like salthill devon and castlebar celtic would be in with a shout if they wanted to join.
    Castlebar anyway seeing as they only have the league team in the u-21's.
    Hard to say whether it would do them any good.

    For a lot of small clubs like them(no offence intended) i think entering the lower wrungs of the eircom league
    would cost a bit more than to stay where they are.

    It would also possibly permanently put their best and brightest in the shop window around the country.

    Money would have to be spent on bringing the club up to this A league license standard

    What yee think?

  7. #7
    Like the Fonz. Only a dog. Mr A's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    In the gutter, but looking at the stars
    Posts
    11,485
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,735
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,312
    Thanked in
    1,524 Posts
    I doubt there will be too many requirements for a team to get into the A league to be honest. I seem to recall that a team has to finish at least 4th in their section of the A league and ahead of all other non-reserve sides to win play any such team from the other section for the right to challenge the bottom first division team to get into the league. From the point of view of many intermediate and junior clubs they will probably regard it as likely to be a difficult and expensive league to compete in. A good few of the premier reserve sides are likely to be of a pretty high standard so getting that fourth place would not be easy. It would leave the way open though if someone wanted to invest serious money in a new club and get them into the league.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

  8. #8
    First Team passerrby's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,725
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    28
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    214
    Thanked in
    123 Posts
    There was an ad in the nationals a few weeks ago looking for prospective clubs to apply.
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

  9. #9
    Capped Player
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Dublin 7
    Posts
    20,251
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3
    Thanked in
    3 Posts

    Thumbs down

    The A League is a terrible idea. No First Division side could afford to enter & means Premier division sides will need to maintain another senior side.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

    Bring back Rocketman!

  10. #10
    International Prospect DmanDmythDledge's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    DUBLIN
    Posts
    7,789
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    52
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    31
    Thanked in
    16 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    The A League is a terrible idea. No First Division side could afford to enter & means Premier division sides will need to maintain another senior side.
    First Division teams aren't required to enter a team in the A League.

    Agree that it's a terrible idea.

  11. #11
    Capped Player
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Dublin 7
    Posts
    20,251
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3
    Thanked in
    3 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    First Division teams aren't required to enter a team in the A League.
    I meant to say that because they not required to enter none of them will due to finances.

    Seems to be a backward step as the U21 league was to encourage teams to keep younger squad members. The A league will just encourage keeping older backup squad members.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

    Bring back Rocketman!

  12. #12
    Now with extra sauce! Dodge's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Insomnia
    Posts
    23,529
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,676
    Thanked in
    1,454 Posts
    The league definitely needs a reserve league. Pats signed a couple of players who aren't match fit and the only games they can play are the first team.

    Remains to be seen if it works out as well as the spanish versions
    54,321 sold - wws will never die - ***
    ---
    New blog if anyone's interested - http://loihistory.wordpress.com/
    LOI section on balls.ie - http://balls.ie/league-of-ireland/

  13. #13
    First Team LeixlipRed's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,500
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    7
    Thanked in
    5 Posts
    Senior players can play for the U-21s though can't they?

  14. #14
    Now with extra sauce! Dodge's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Insomnia
    Posts
    23,529
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,676
    Thanked in
    1,454 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    Senior players can play for the U-21s though can't they?
    Max of three
    54,321 sold - wws will never die - ***
    ---
    New blog if anyone's interested - http://loihistory.wordpress.com/
    LOI section on balls.ie - http://balls.ie/league-of-ireland/

  15. #15
    First Team passerrby's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,725
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    28
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    214
    Thanked in
    123 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    The A League is a terrible idea. No First Division side could afford to enter & means Premier division sides will need to maintain another senior side.
    spot on very silly plan but i think they have made there minds up and will not be consulting clubs
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

  16. #16
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby View Post
    spot on very silly plan but i think they have made there minds up and will not be consulting clubs
    Is it not being imposed on them by the powers that be?

    That was by impression

  17. #17
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    The league definitely needs a reserve league.
    A straight reserve league whereby teams can field anybody they like from the club, senior, reserve, u-21 would be too much of a financial burden for most as nobody would be interested.

    I wonder could a premier reserve team get into 1st division. That mite not be a good idea. Takin up the place of another team that would not have the support of a "parent club" behind it.

    Aswel, someones post led me to believe it would be regional. Ah sure jesus if thats the case, on this side of the country it would turn into another connacht senior league.

    And on the subject if the spanish league, soccer is the no. 1 religion in spain, never mind sport! Different situation altogether

  18. #18
    Reserves crc's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Cork
    Posts
    953
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    25
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    I wonder could a premier reserve team get into 1st division.
    Reserve teams can't get promoted.

  19. #19
    Seasoned Pro GavinZac's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    4,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    A straight reserve league whereby teams can field anybody they like from the club, senior, reserve, u-21 would be too much of a financial burden for most as nobody would be interested.
    financial burden? they dont need to field full strength teams

    I wonder could a premier reserve team get into 1st division. That mite not be a good idea. Takin up the place of another team that would not have the support of a "parent club" behind it.
    no, they can't.

    Aswel, someones post led me to believe it would be regional. Ah sure jesus if thats the case, on this side of the country it would turn into another connacht senior league.
    regionality depends upon the number of applicants. id imagine the FAI would quite like the idea of lessening the influence of the regional FA's. i cant, however, see enough clubs from connacht applying to form an 8/10 team division. "regionalisation" will most likely be identical to italy/german/spanish models - aligned on a North/South divide.

    And on the subject if the spanish league, soccer is the no. 1 religion in spain, never mind sport! Different situation altogether
    the FAI arent expecting clubs to immediately have support in this league. i expect, they will want the same level of participation that they get from the extra U21 teams. but who knows? if castlebar find themselves with a home game against shels to decide if they can get up or not, even if they lost it'd bring a whole new audience into the EL family circle. the A league would also make for a stronger showing from the participating senior clubs in the cups, something desperately needed.
    Last edited by GavinZac; 16/07/2007 at 8:56 PM.

  20. #20
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Terryland Park
    Posts
    2,131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,384
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    507
    Thanked in
    288 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    financial burden? they dont need to field full strength teams
    Im not sure what ur gettin at there but i mean would the A league have separate squads to Senior side, i'd imagine so. thats just me thinking out loud.

    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    regionality depends upon the number of applicants. id imagine the FAI would quite like the idea of lessening the influence of the regional FA's. i cant, however, see enough clubs from connacht applying to form an 8/10 team division. "regionalisation" will most likely be identical to italy/german/spanish models - aligned on a North/South divide.

    the FAI arent expecting clubs to immediately have support in this league. i expect, they will want the same level of participation that they get from the extra U21 teams. but who knows? if castlebar find themselves with a home game against shels to decide if they can get up or not, even if they lost it'd bring a whole new audience into the EL family circle. the A league would also make for a stronger showing from the participating senior clubs in the cups, something desperately needed.
    I suppose like you say, a situation where a team like castlebar needing to overcome the reserve team of a big team or shels it would give the profile of the local game a boost no matter the result.

    In the long term would entry to the league be on invitation. Say you had a team finish rock bottom a few years in a row...

    Thanks for the input gavinzac

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. League of Ireland Structure
    By gufcfan in forum Premier & First Divisions
    Replies: 60
    Last Post: 28/09/2015, 9:51 AM
  2. Youth League Structure
    By Lukenho in forum Schoolboys
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 30/05/2015, 12:21 PM
  3. Eircom League clubs asked for proposals on structure...
    By holidaysong in forum Premier & First Divisions
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 05/11/2005, 10:23 AM
  4. NI league structure
    By Gerrit in forum Irish League
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11/06/2005, 1:32 AM
  5. League structure
    By Kenneth McMahon in forum Premier & First Divisions
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07/10/2003, 3:31 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •