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    talk about mountain out of molehill

    Get a ****ing grip lads. You were asked to take downa flag, so ****ing what!?

    Oh and BTW what is the point in having a tricolour at a game between two Irish teams that play in red & white anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    its not the other clubs that derry are afraid of inciting. its their own potential unionist fans. why is this so difficult for people to grasp?


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    Afraid that I can't agree with you! These people know what team they follow and what league they play in so know what sort of flags and banners that will accompany these fans while supporting their teams.They're are not complete idiot's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    talk about mountain out of molehill

    Get a ****ing grip lads. You were asked to take downa flag, so ****ing what!?

    Oh and BTW what is the point in having a tricolour at a game between two Irish teams that play in red & white anyway?

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    Have ye none with St Pats on it!

    Its having pride in your nation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    Afraid that I can't agree with you! These people know what team they follow and what league they play in so know what sort of flags and banners that will accompany these fans while supporting their teams.They're are not complete idiot's!
    the league they play in is irrelevant. Derry City FC represent the entirity of Derry City. Allowing national flags from either side of the bigotry only serves to antagonise, so why bother? Its not that big a deal, as Dodge pointed out, whats the point in bringing a tricolour there anyway? (im going to go ahead and use your answer...)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    Its having pride in your nation!
    nation has nothing to do with it. whether or not its possible to be "proud" of being born somewhere, its entirely irrelevant at club v club level. there may be something to be said for it in european games but even then you're stretching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    Have ye none with St Pats on it!

    Its having pride in your nation!
    I didn't see Ireland play at the Brandywell last night.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    I didn't see Ireland play at the Brandywell last night.
    Lucky you didnt what would happen with all the Tricolors then!
    Then again ye not know what pride in a nation is!

    Den again I suppose ye do when it Suits!
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    I think most Irish people have pride in their nation. Why does this have to be reasserted by bringing a national flag to a football match between two Irish teams?? Football and politics clearly don't mix well. That's why Derry City have this rule.

    Yes I know the Bray fans have tricolours with BWAFC on it but if we weren't allowed to wave it about I wouldn't be as indignated as the Sligo fans here. I don't see the point in showing off your nationalism to people in your own country. International games or European games, fine. But ffs lads it's a league game. Both teams are Irish. It's not needed.

    Aside from that, how can yez not understand the gravity of the situation up North? We've all read and heard enough about it. If this had happened in any other ground in the country, you might have a reason to spew this nationalism tripe but Derry is a totally different kettle of fish and who knows if you'd been displaying the tricolour on the side of the bus and your man took a wrong turn you coulda gotten into a lot of trouble.

    It's nothing personal lads. It's nothing against your national pride. It's just sensible and sensitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader View Post
    If they can't be associated with our national flag will let them play in another league where they can be assoicated with the flag of the country Although i think they should tell the people of the Brandywell and bogside first that they can't be associated with the tri-colour and they will show you what they think of that.
    Can you not grasp the fact that the club is called Derry City, not Brandywell Harps or Bogside Celtic?

    Being based in the Brandywell and Bogide area doesn't make all it's fans representative of the people in the areas political beliefs.

    There are actually very few people living in the Brandywell area that go into the stadium to watch the games.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba
    I understand that this was not done to antagonise the Sligo fan.Neither was the putting up of the flag to antagonise your cross commnuity fans base.Surly your protestant fan base are not fickle enough to be insulted by the presence of the Tricolor by fans from the opposing team in which they play which happens to be of a different culture.There was not one secterian comment from either fan base.Why did it take so long for the decision to take it down was made midway through 2nd half.Nobody was bothered bout it up to that!
    I dont know if our Protestant community are fickle enough because I'm not a protestant, thats something you have to ask them, but thats why our club implemented this rule, to respect those that may be fickle enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader
    The only thing that is rediculous is this rule it should be changed for league of ireland games. I could understand it for other games that involve clubs that may see Flags as incitment. Derry will happy to accept the money they make from playing under the Irish flag in the champions in a few weeks time but wont allow the national flag to be displayed in their ground is nothing short of disrespctful and ludicrous.

    What would happen if these people come down to the Showgrounds and see the tri-colour ? Will they make an objection if they are that bigoted that they can't stand the sight of the tri-colour or that it may upset them then maybe the league of Ireland is not for them.
    Look that would be their problem, but our club has taken steps to ensure everyone feels welcome and comfotbale at the Brandywell, and have banned national flags to do so.

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    One last post,must get up and do something.In a few weeks time Derry will be playing in europe representing Ireland and comments like "Flying the Flag" for Ireland etc will be in the media.Is this going antagonise their protestant fan base they are so worried about? Wont be one bit bothered I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    Lucky you didnt what would happen with all the Tricolors then!
    Then again ye not know what pride in a nation is!

    Den again I suppose ye do when it Suits!

    I went to an Ireland game once, full of west Brit Premiership supporting ********s. Couldn't stand it. Put me off for life.

    I have pride in my City and my home team. Pride in a nation? - it's guff like that caused 30years of hurt up here.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    One last post,must get up and do something.In a few weeks time Derry will be playing in europe representing Ireland and comments like "Flying the Flag" for Ireland etc will be in the media.Is this going antagonise their protestant fan base they are so worried about? Wont be one bit bothered I'd say.
    Matbe not, but its compulsory for the club to do so, not by choice. I'd say if it wasnt compulsory it wouldnt be flown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    I think most Irish people have pride in their nation. Why does this have to be reasserted by bringing a national flag to a football match between two Irish teams?? Football and politics clearly don't mix well. That's why Derry City have this rule.

    Yes I know the Bray fans have tricolours with BWAFC on it but if we weren't allowed to wave it about I wouldn't be as indignated as the Sligo fans here. I don't see the point in showing off your nationalism to people in your own country. International games or European games, fine. But ffs lads it's a league game. Both teams are Irish. It's not needed.

    Aside from that, how can yez not understand the gravity of the situation up North? We've all read and heard enough about it. If this had happened in any other ground in the country, you might have a reason to spew this nationalism tripe but Derry is a totally different kettle of fish and who knows if you'd been displaying the tricolour on the side of the bus and your man took a wrong turn you coulda gotten into a lot of trouble.

    It's nothing personal lads. It's nothing against your national pride. It's just sensible and sensitive.
    Unless you were there I think it would have the same effect on you.It was just very insulting and the fact that is was so far into the game made it worse.The policy if in effect should have been implemented from the start of the game.As for bus taken wrong turn thats call sense & sensetivity.Inside the ground people know what teams are playing and more than likly the type of banners flags are going to be expected.Outside you show sensetivity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    I went to an Ireland game once, full of west Brit Premiership supporting ********s. Couldn't stand it. Put me off for life.

    I have pride in my City and my home team. Pride in a nation? - it's guff like that caused 30years of hurt up here.
    Bulls**t! Theirs nothing wrong with having pride in your nation its how presieve(Spelln?) it.A football match aint going to stop that considering what you see when drive round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader View Post
    Taking from other Derry fans on their forum the last guy got riduculed from a height as he did have an irish passport but did not have Irish Drivers license

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    seen the stewards tellin a young fella to take down a tri colour that was on the fence at the sligo end last night.
    just my opinion but i think its a stupid rule.
    Bar the setanta cup who exactly is it offending
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    [Bar the setanta cup who exactly is it offending?

    the odd person from our town's minority community who might be flying over the ground in a helicopter


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    i agre 100% we should be allowed to fly our flag regardless of what the rule book says , at the end of the day therre were no secterian slogans on it an nothing meant by it,
    we should be proud to fly our flag as i for one am an irishman not as others have stated part of the UK on my passport an any other form were its states place of birth i answer IRELAND so back to the flag issue we should be allowed to fly our coulors


    All well and good defending your club to the hilt but your club is wrong in this instance. Good luck and enjoy the 12th
    Why dont you post what everyone said, not just these three? Its your opinion our club is wrong, if you dont like the rules you can **** off back to Sligo!!

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    There was twenty minutes last night. The away side are getting bet three one and the Rovers support are not in the best of form. The stewards are directed to take down the flag, who are not very happy for obvious reasons. Not because of the invisible Unionist support but because of the hassle they will receive from the visiting section. Actually they handled the situation very well.

    I knew nothing of this rule. Derry from now on should inform the visiting team on the ban of national flags through their local medias, papers, radio etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    Have ye none with St Pats on it!

    Its having pride in your nation!
    We'll have them out for the UEFA Cup games in Denmark. In a game between two Irish sides, who are you showing your "pride" to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader View Post
    Sure if you are such a hard man PM and you can tell me how your just going to make me. Derry fans shown up by the real Derry fans very regrettable !
    What a ****ing child

    Talk about making something out of nothing.

    No one that doesnt live there can understand what its like in Derry or in the North. Boo hoo you couldnt wave your pflag for one game.

    Derry have their reasons for teh rule, and im sure their reasons are more valid than your 'I want to show im proud of my country at a LOI game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader View Post
    Sure if you are such a hard man PM and you can tell me how your just going to make me. Derry fans shown up by the real Derry fans very regrettable !
    If you dont want to accept our club rules, you knmow where to go, that nicer for ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Trader View Post
    Not in my view and a lot of their fans !
    And yet your view doesnt matter a tap......

    If there were enough Derry fans that really cared Im sure they could talk to the club about it....I suspect there arent though. There may be those who dont understand or agree with the rule but accept it without whinging....unlike ye who have to put up with it for max 2 games a season

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