limerick fc rip

**deise deserter** · 20/03/2003, 3:34 PM

Obviously a Limerickman like yourself knows then about the situation with the school across the road who deem the area around the road such a problem spot that they are knocking down the school and moving it away closer to the main road.

Ah what a perfect place - you should move there SLK as a sign of your true fandom!

**sadloserkid** · 20/03/2003, 3:37 PM

Originally posted by deise deserter
Obviously a Limerickman like yourself knows then about the situation with the school across the road who deem the area around the road such a problem spot that they are knocking down the school and moving it away closer to the main road.

Ah what a perfect place - you should move there SLK as a sign of your true fandom!

That would just be plain silly since I'm in collge on the other side of town. Just like knocking the school was stupid but then again our Department of Education is a bloody joke (as well you know!

) And I know the club are dirt poor but I have no intention of following in their paths (B.A. or not?) so I don't think I'll aspire to abject poverty myself.

**Nempton** · 20/03/2003, 4:13 PM

Lets take into consideration for one second the problem with the incoming club licence. When this comes into effect what is going to happen to Limerick FC. We need to find a ground were we can build 500 seats which is the minmum no. of seats required by the licence. For me beggars can't be choosers. We have no money to buy land and develop it into a stadium. Limerick soccer while it is popular at junior level is non-existent in the eircom league. I think those that turned up at the Jacks will make the trek to Pike which is probably around 30-40 people. I don't think thomond would work out, its a good idea and it has all the ammenties but it would be a lot more expensive. I think that one of the reasons why the players wage bill has gone up is because we won't have to pay as much for Pike as we did with the Jacks. In regards to security and the fear of fans, to be honest Deise while it is valid in one respect just think back to the last two grounds we have played in and the surrounding area. It was the same situation as it is with Pike. Although Pike has S'hill at one side, it also has the Limerick countryside at the other. You can park as far away as the Parkway or outside someones house on the Kilmallock road and take a shortcut through the cemetery (thats were all the joyriders end up...Joke

). Pike is our key to securing a club licence and allowing the club time to get organised because lets be realistic that is going to take some time. I think we will also see supporters of Pike turning up for matches. In regards to them not having a youths team that shouldn't concern us because Limerick FC have an underage team. I'm sorry if this isn't structured very well but I tried to address points raised by everyone. I think we have to start looking at the bigger picture, which is Limericks survival and making sure we get the club licence and while some do/don't like Pike, I think it can help us achieve this.

**deise deserter** · 20/03/2003, 5:16 PM

Good points Nempton.

I don't think you attended the meeting with Darren Bernstein late last year, but the Limerick FC Committee were going to organise a meeting where all supporters could help with working on the club reaching the standards that have been set out by the licencing.

Typically, there has been no reply from the club as to when the meeting will take place (if it will take place at all). It seems that this is completly out of the supporters hands.

**LFC in Exile** · 21/03/2003, 11:32 AM

This Nempton guy is a wise man. I agree completely.

**sadloserkid** · 21/03/2003, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by LFC in Exile
This Nempton guy is a wise man. I agree completely.

He's never heard that before!!!

He's talking sense though to be fair. Mostly anyway.

**deise deserter** · 21/03/2003, 12:09 PM

Nempton - is your fantasy football still going well? I think you should look into managing Limerick in the future. Only a couple of posts and all the bigs guns are on your side!

**Nempton** · 24/03/2003, 5:12 PM

Moi wise, I don't know. Just thought that people might be forgetting the bigger picture and that the clubs survival is at stake. I don't think the club is really that obliged to talk to us about the club licence, perhaps at the time of the meeting with Bernstein, it was them doing some good PR work and presenting a good image of themselves in front of a Eircom league official. I think until the supporters get organised and establish an effective supporters club, Limerick FC officials won't feel compelled to meet supporters like Gael353 or SLK to discuss the affairs of Limerick FC. So lets be constructive and actually do something about starting up the Supporters club. I know we have talked about it and swapped emails but lets try and get this running before the start of the season. I think thats well within our capabilities.

**sadloserkid** · 25/03/2003, 8:24 AM

I agree with you as far as setting up a supporters club goes but let's examine some facts.

In December the club promised to arrange another open meeting within a month with fans to discuss both the implications of the licensing system and how fans cold help the club to 'beat it'. It is now late March and their failure to fulfill this promise says nothing about their regard for fans or indeed their character.

Secondly John Purcell contacted gael353 a couple of months ago to arrange a meeting with a small group of fans. Within days we had our five man team assembled and ready to go. There is even a draft version of a Supporters Club constitution. However since then there has been a real stalling of feet and a succession of vague promises about the meeting.

The club has broken promises to supporters in the last few months. All this can do is damage trust between club and supporters. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here but, through not fault of either of you, both yourself and LFC In Exile were unable to attend the Fans Forum in December. There were such positive vibes by the end of that meeting and a real feeling that Limerick FC were standing ready to meet all the upcoming challenges. Well... those vibes are being diluted and weakened every day as the club revert to their old 'Gang of 3' mentality. If the local media is to be believed then they've done well but we now have just over 8 months to meet the license requirements and from where I'm standing there's still all to do...

**Nempton** · 25/03/2003, 4:52 PM

The facts that you brought up is exactly why we should try and get the supporters club running. If we are able to organise and unite the Limerick fans, then together as a group we can exert pressure on the board to meet us. I think it is very important that the members of the board meet with the fans and keep us informed and when it is possible get us involved with Limerick or help in any way we can. If you look at Wycombe Wanderers, their manager Lawrie Sanchez and their chairman Ivor Beeks hold forums with the fans every so often. They have created a good rappore with the fans and have slowly seen attendances rise as well I think. With the club licence coming into effect we are all going to be nervous and worried about Limericks survival and it would be nice if the board met with us to let us know what is happening. After saying that I know that there is a press conference or meeting (depending if the press turn up

) on tonight at Pikes ground so that is a good opportunity to ask questions. But back to starting up the supporters club, I think we can offer a lot more to Limerick FC if we are united, we can promote the club, try and get fans to go to away matches, we can develop the camaderie between the fans and also with the players and the board. We can also keep the board on their toes and support them when they need it. Look at what has been achieved when the fans do get together...the flags, trophies for player of the season. I think a supporters club will be a positive thing for the club, it will show the FAI two things 1. That limerick has a strong support base to build on and 2. that things are starting to get organised within Limerick soccer and that progress is being made and that the future is not doomed for Limerick FC.

**LFC in Exile** · 25/03/2003, 5:06 PM

I agree with Nempton on this (though maybe agree is the wrong word because I don't think there is any disagremnt between any of us on this).

I have long been of the view that the club committee have no outlet to communicate with the fans even if they wanted to. The 'Gang of Five' (of which I believe I am one) do not represent the fans. We are just guys that post on the internet. A supporters club set up with upwards of 100 members (not a lot to get really) would give the committee of that club power to represent fans and talk to the club. The club could involve fans more and talk to the supporters club committee who in turn could brief the fans.

If I was on the club committee I would be wary of just calling up a few lads who go to matches and consulting with them. there are so many agendas going on they have to be careful - they could end up talking to the likes of Lims Fan.

Nempton, if you send me an email to deckiejordan@hotmail.com I will forward you on the ideas I had for forming a supporters cluba nd what would be involved. I would be open to meeting with some interested fans to talk about that proposal and gettingthe ball rolling. We would probably need to meet on a weekend though for me since I am in Cork.

**sadloserkid** · 26/03/2003, 8:10 AM

I've already mailed it onto him LFC In Exile.

**Nempton** · 26/03/2003, 5:37 PM

Thanks SLK, I'm afraid I won't be able to get into my email account until Friday though but I'll reply back to 'Exile' and yourself about it.

**sadloserkid** · 27/03/2003, 8:24 AM

Take your time!

Will text you with the score after tonight's game alright?

**sadloserkid** · 20/05/2003, 3:55 PM

Just wanted to bring this back to the top of the pile because A) There have been 'guests' reading it all day (BTW I have no idea who they could be

) and B) I thought Deise Deserter might like to re-examine some comments of his from earlier in the thread.

the road outside of Pike is one of the roads in Limerick with the most joyriding.

Fact: It is a trouble area. It is not bull**** and it is not media hype.

So far we've seen no joyriding and no trouble other than some lethargic grafitti... No joyriding at all on one of the roads with the most joyriding? Sounds rather strange to me I must say. Perhaps the joyriders haven't switched to the summer season like ourselves? So it was media hype after all then...

**deise deserter** · 20/05/2003, 6:48 PM

No according to one source the gardai sorted out some really young looking guy on the first day. Hasn't been seen since up there, incidentally .....

**sadloserkid** · 20/05/2003, 7:41 PM

Originally posted by deise deserter
No according to one source the gardai sorted out some really young looking guy on the first day. Hasn't been seen since up there, incidentally .....

Just to clarify for anybody who might be fooled by Deise's innuendo above, he's referring to a car that one of our players (ex-player?) was in that happened to be pulled over briefly by Gardai after our first game. My point above still stands. We're still waiting for the deluge of speeding, stoned joyriders that Deise so confidently predicted before the season began.