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    Refereeing question

    Just saw an incident in a rugby match, and wondered about the football equivalent.

    If a player has been substituted - paperwork has been done, he is jogging off, shakes hands with the substitute, then spits at the referee/assistant referee, or some other offence which normally results in a red card - what punishment can be given?

    Obviously, the player who has been substituted can be sent off......is that it?

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    Still get sent off just like sending off a coach or sub (seen a sub get sent off recently cant recall who for, think it was in la liga).

    As hes been subbed the team isnt down to ten.


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    Sevilla sub got sent off warming up

    The player who came on stays on. Guy who got sent off likely to get lengthy ban
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    At what point is a substitution complete?

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    Suppose when the substituted player is off the pitch and the new one on
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    On a point of information a referee can send a player or official off at any point from the time the teams leave the dressing room before the game right until they return there long after the final whistle. I know of an incident where a player was sent off after the final whistle once.

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    Its complete when the sub crosses the line .

    Ive heard of a player getting sent off in the car park after the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie View Post
    I know of an incident where a player was sent off after the final whistle once.
    it happens quite often. was it cork who had players sent off in cyprus following a tunnel incident recenltly !!

    another famous one was cantona in istanbul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdjaC View Post
    Still get sent off just like sending off a coach or sub (seen a sub get sent off recently cant recall who for, think it was in la liga).

    As hes been subbed the team isnt down to ten.


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    First time I saw it happen was on the Italian Football programme. Last match of the season in the early 1990s - AC Milan vs. Foggia (8-2) which was a featured game on Network 2, or perhaps the following season Fiorentina vs. Foggia (6-2), which may have been live on Channel 4. Anyway, the sub starts roaring on at the ref over another goal conceded, and over he comes and reds him. Prior to this, Foggia had received 99 red and yellow cards that season - this was the ideal way to get the ton!
    That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    Ive heard of a player getting sent off in the car park after the game
    I've heard of a supporter being shown a red card by a ref in a
    Roscommion League game before.

    The offending spectator was shown the red card for giving out about
    refereeing decisions. He hopped over the other side of the chest high
    fence and continued to shout abuse at the ref from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post

    The offending spectator was shown the red card for giving out about
    refereeing decisions. He hopped over the other side of the chest high
    fence and continued to shout abuse at the ref from there.

    my manager did that in Nighthawks league in 3 rock, walked behind little fence and continued to shout at the ref.




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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    At what point is a substitution complete?

    soon as they cross the white line

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    ok. first: the referee can send a player off from the moment the referee enters the stadium, to the point in time when he leaves the stadium. once off the field however it is not 100% necessary to show the red card. and the substitution is complete once the player leaves the field of play. and about the supporter being shown the red card, thats disgracful refereeing. the referee is only allowed to show a card to a player, not even a manager. he is meant to inform the manager to remove the supporter. how do i know all this- i am a referee
    now any more questions that need to be officially answered

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitzyjr View Post
    - i am a referee


    BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitzyjr View Post
    the referee can send a player off from the moment the referee enters the stadium, to the point in time when he leaves the stadium.
    That would make refereeing in the First Division (and much of the Premier) a bit problematic, what with the absence of stadia recogniseable as such.
    That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

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    What would happen if you had some guy annoying you so instead of hitting him lashed the ball at him hittin ghim in the nuts then when he went to hold them smashed it back into his face . Could you get booked for that you could claim you were trying to clear it ?

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    by stadium i mean the area around the pitch and dressing room. and to answer anto1208's question: you would probably get away with hitting him in the nuts, but after that the ref would probably rule it as intentional and you would be booked. if it was your free kick, however, and he was hit while standing too close, the ref could book him if he didnt make enough effort in getting out of the way. and if he wasnt booked then hed be in pain anyway and you'd get to hit the free-kick again.

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    do you think video assistance should be available to referees? Why do some referees not seem too keen on the idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    do you think video assistance should be available to referees? Why do some referees not seem too keen on the idea?
    Power trip ?

    They dont like the idea of someone else being able to over rule them . i know im messing but ive played in games where the refs are just ignorant idiots on a power trip shouting things at you like walk away now or ill book you , treating you like a kid and im not one for mouthing off to refs .

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    im all for them bringing in TV assistance. although it will probably greatly slow down the game like it can in rugby. but if they can be sure that it wont take any pace out of the game then it should be brought in. the only problem is ireland wont see it til about 2032. and anto, ur about 95% right. the majority of refs who dont want it just dont want any of their authority taken away. its pure daft i know but thats the way some refs are. i know some who just want to dictate on the pitch, i do it because i like watching football

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