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    i think fifa are trying to involve the fai better with clubs, as we dont think highly of them and the fact cork were the only team not to appeal through the fai was where they failed, as i would think the fai got on to fifa to sc*** them over for non coperation with there governing body, see it all a conspiracy for delaney to be liked, i wouldnt put it past them would you.


    and sorry fifa but actual law superceeds sporting law, any individual is allowed at any time to obtain work in there profession so if i work with 2 or 10 emplyers in a year im allowed, same for professional footballers,
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    FIFA arent stopping them 'obtaining work'. Both the players are employees of CCFC. FIFA have placed a transfer window and as such limited the amount of clubs you can play for, not be contracted to.

    Subtle, but important, difference.

    No-one seems to be able to explain why the rest of the LoI players were cleared and the CC 2 werent. Surely Cok werent stupid enough to reject the FAI's offer of taking up the case and go in on their own, were they?

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    As far as I know Mascherano was on loan to Liverpool but a fee was agreed that he will join Liverpool permenantly at the end of the season.
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    cork went it alone and the fai made sure they were sc***ed, john delaney needs to be loved, how do you explain how everyone who got the fai to appeal got there players registered and cork didnt, they thoght they could go it alone but never factored in john delaneys ego
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    Quote Originally Posted by don ramo View Post
    cork went it alone and the fai made sure they were sc***ed, john delaney needs to be loved, how do you explain how everyone who got the fai to appeal got there players registered and cork didnt, they thoght they could go it alone but never factored in john delaneys ego
    If Cork went it alone, whose ego are we talking about here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by don ramo View Post
    cork went it alone and the fai made sure they were sc***ed,
    When CCFC decided to go it alone the FAI were doing feck all. If we had waiting there was no guarantee the FAI would do anything.

    The fact that 1-2 weeks later the FAI decided they would get involved is besides the point.
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    I'm trying to figure out what 3 letters are blanked out in sc***ed?!

    Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    I'm trying to figure out what 3 letters are blanked out in sc***ed?!

    Any ideas?
    "rap" of course what else would it be, but the fact is the fai got the others cleared and only cork city, who said they were great and didnt need there help got scraped, so there egos and delaney are so hugh one must go, delaney preferably but i wouldnt shed a tear for the later,

    but it does look dodgy that the rest were cleared and citys werent, you might say it wouldnt happen no one is that childish but this is tha fai
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    When CCFC decided to go it alone the FAI were doing feck all. If we had waiting there was no guarantee the FAI would do anything.

    The fact that 1-2 weeks later the FAI decided they would get involved is besides the point.
    yet every other club had enough faith in them to do the job. which they did.

    rather than blame the FAI, FIFA and any other acronym that you see, try blaming your board for misjudging the politics of the situation and bypassing the association in dealing with FIFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't View Post
    yet every other club had enough faith in them to do the job. which they did.

    rather than blame the FAI, FIFA and any other acronym that you see, try blaming your board for misjudging the politics of the situation and bypassing the association in dealing with FIFA.
    City went alone first because the FAI were delaying. Once the FAI got going they rowed in fully behind City.

    City were done simply because we do not have the deep pockets of Liverpool to "lobby" with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC View Post
    City went alone first because the FAI were delaying. Once the FAI got going they rowed in fully behind City.

    City were done simply because we do not have the deep pockets of Liverpool to "lobby" with...
    pull the other one. Have Finn Harps and Athlone got the deep pockets?

    this conspiracy theory nonsense would make alot more sense if all the other 'small' clubs got turned down too.

    the only difference beetween cork and the other LoI clubs was you decided to reject FAI help and present your own case. do us all a favour and look to within your club for a scapegoat rather than blaming FIFA.

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    Jesus Christ lads, how many times has it been said?
    The difference was the short-term loan contracts in England which Fifa don't recognise as legit but the English FA do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't View Post
    pull the other one. Have Finn Harps and Athlone got the deep pockets?

    this conspiracy theory nonsense would make alot more sense if all the other 'small' clubs got turned down too.

    the only difference beetween cork and the other LoI clubs was you decided to reject FAI help and present your own case. do us all a favour and look to within your club for a scapegoat rather than blaming FIFA.
    Do us all a favour and do just the smallest bit of background reading before shooting off your mouth again

    Like Risteard said the cases of the other 8 were factually different to the two City players and City did not reject FAI help either btw ; http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...=1838&Itemid=9

    We blame FIFA because its totally their fault. Look at this crap they came out with to clear Mascherano http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federa...id=110829.html

    How are Farrelly and Healy any different?
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    FIFA:

    Particular emphasis was given to the safeguarding of sporting integrity and the crucial element of overlapping seasons between the relevant associations.
    eL season versus Uk season?

    The Single Judge made it clear, however, that such permission can only be granted under very strict preconditions. In particular, he stressed that, "a series of elements related, on the one hand, to the duration and the positioning of the relevant sports seasons as well as to the respect of the registration periods and, on the other hand, to the duration and respect of the employment contracts concerned, need to be cumulatively met."
    What does that mean?

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    It's vague, even if you strip away the legalese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    eL season versus Uk season?
    How do you think the other players got cleared?

    As has been pointed out already the players can't play as their loans are not recognised. Nothing to do with an anti-Cork agenda. This thread should be locked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    How do you think the other players got cleared?

    As has been pointed out already the players can't play as their loans are not recognised. Nothing to do with an anti-Cork agenda. This thread should be locked.
    How many times the other Irish players had different facts to Healy and Farrelly

    Yes indeed lock it...or maybe you could just not read it

    Tell us the difference between Healy and Farrelly and Mascherno going to Liverpool so...

    ...why does FIFA rule the short term contracts in England illegal but takes no action against them? Here's a hint; £ € $
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    Quote Originally Posted by SÓC View Post
    Tell us the difference between Healy and Farrelly and Mascherno going to Liverpool so...
    How many times...

    ...why does FIFA rule the short term contracts in England illegal but takes no action against them? Here's a hint; £ € $
    FIFA never said they were illegal, they just didn't recognise them.

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    Bloomin hell why are people still comparing CCFC's problem with Liverpool. They are not the same thing.
    Yes the 3 club rule was an issue BUT it was the only issuse for liverpool.
    Citys problems were compounded (made worse) by the loan spell dispute between FIFA and the English FA. The CAS report made that clear.
    So a warning to all clubs...when looking to sign players from England...check for any loan spells and be very wary of any short loan deals in the immediate history of a player.
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