Irish Team in 7 Years Time - Prediction

**Bungle** · 20/06/2007, 10:29 PM

Oh right. Yeah well that's good to hear. Hopefully he'll change his mind once he breaks into the first team squad. The only worry is Grant, who is Scottish also.

I see Norwich are trying to sign Sharpe. With Earnshaw, I think they'll have the best strikeforce in the Championship. Hopefully Renton and byrne continue to make good progress.

Do you have any connections to those lads?You seem to be well informed!!

On the subject of Norwich, there's a young English lad called Danny Kelly or something who declared for us. He's meant to be very good. I think England schoolboys wanted him, but he turned them down.

**Brady Bhoy** · 20/06/2007, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bungle

Oh right. Yeah well that's good to hear. Hopefully he'll change his mind once he breaks into the first team squad. The only worry is Grant, who is Scottish also.

I see Norwich are trying to sign Sharpe. With Earnshaw, I think they'll have the best strikeforce in the Championship. Hopefully Renton and byrne continue to make good progress.

Do you have any connections to those lads?You seem to be well informed!!

On the subject of Norwich, there's a young English lad called Danny Kelly or something who declared for us. He's meant to be very good. I think England schoolboys wanted him, but he turned them down.

I only know Byrne, brother works with Norwich. Dont know this Kelly lad, i'll find out some info on him. Grant, that is the scottish couch i was on about.

The lad Sharpe, is that Billy off S****horpe? If so he is a quality player, him and Keogh had a great partnership.

As for Renton, I have a feeling he will be the next youth to make his name.

**Bungle** · 20/06/2007, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Brady Bhoy

I only know Byrne, brother works with Norwich. Dont know this Kelly lad, i'll find out some info on him. Grant, that is the scottish couch i was on about.

The lad Sharpe, is that Billy off S****horpe? If so he is a quality player, him and Keogh had a great partnership.

As for Renton, I have a feeling he will be the next youth to make his name.

http://new.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/s...A27%3A41%3A323

Seems to be talented. I think he may have a brother called Ross playing in the academy also.

This is what I found on David Cooper.

http://www.ex-canaries.co.uk/players/cooper-david.htm

I know Norwich have a very talented goalie called Declan Rudd who plays with England under 16. With a name like that...

**Brady Bhoy** · 21/06/2007, 1:41 AM

Aye say so. Them profiles, the ones of Renton, Paul McClean, and Gareth Matthews, you'll see they were spotted by my bro it should say. Can't say I know Cooper either.

See the Fulham goalie, you know much on him? Thought he played for Chelsea?

**paul_oshea** · 21/06/2007, 9:02 AM

Kris Renton is Scottish
I think you mean Chris McCann, not Michael McCann

i think he was name dropping.

**Paddy Garcia** · 21/06/2007, 3:56 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

How many 11 or 12 year olds have any of the top Premiership teams bought lately?

How many 11-12 year olds have been mentioned on this thread? I don't know what you are talking about tbh. You are an intriguing fellow altogether. Impossible to predict what you are going to say next.

Also you should take a look at where Chelsea have invested their money in recent weeks. I'm not saying these are shrewd investments, clearly they are not fortunate enough to have you advising them on their purchases.

**Paddy Garcia** · 21/06/2007, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by Brady Bhoy

Renton is scottish yes, he played for our set a few times, but the coach at Norwich is scottish himself, and he convinced Renton to go to Scotland. Now from what I know he didn't like it, and now could be close to an under 21 call up for ire. Also his dad has always said he wanted him to play for ire, which is good to hear.
.

Send in the Doc. We were clearly his first choice, I recall reading an interview with Grant who was intent on persuading him to declare for Scotland.

**RogerMilla** · 21/06/2007, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

You are an intriguing fellow altogether. Impossible to predict what you are going to say next.
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sydney greenstreet couldnt have said it better PG !

**Brady Bhoy** · 21/06/2007, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Send in the Doc. We were clearly his first choice, I recall reading an interview with Grant who was intent on persuading him to declare for Scotland.

Yes, but as I said he said he preferred the irish set up which is good for us, hopeully he gets a cap soon so he does'nt play for the Scots.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 23/06/2007, 1:48 PM

I'm a little surprised that all bar danonion believe Shay Given will have shuffled off the international stage in 7 years. You'd certainly hope that others will challenge for the shirt and maybe even dislodge him. But he appears to be a model professional and there's no reason why, at 38, he couldn't be a top flight keeper.

If Kahn can Shay may.

**Brady Bhoy** · 23/06/2007, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I'm a little surprised that all bar danonion believe Shay Given will have shuffled off the international stage in 7 years. You'd certainly hope that others will challenge for the shirt and maybe even dislodge him. But he appears to be a model professional and there's no reason why, at 38, he couldn't be a top flight keeper.

If Kahn can Shay may.

Doubt it. With all his injuries lately, doubt he'll be in football in 7 years. He's not even that great a keeper anymore.

**tetsujin1979** · 23/06/2007, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by Brady Bhoy

Doubt it. With all his injuries lately, doubt he'll be in football in 7 years. He's not even that great a keeper anymore.

Are you out of your Vulcan mind??
Newcastle stats this season from http://www.footballanorak.com/ :

Code:

Shay Given Starting
 P  W D L
22  9 6 7

Shay Given not playing
 P  W D  L
15  1 4 10

Only one win without Given, and 10 losses. For someone who's "not even that great a keeper", Newcastle are a far better team with him than without him

**Irish_Praha** · 23/06/2007, 5:38 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

For someone who's "not even that great a keeper", Newcastle are a far better team with him than without him

He did write "not even that great a keeper anymore" all those games were played in the past so he has to prove that he's still the keeper he was.

However, I believe he's still got a good five years at the highest level. It might be pushing it a bit to say he'll still be our number one in 7 years time. Although I can still see him being a capable club keeper at 38. I would hope internationally that some of the younger would be hot on his heels before then but if not that would mean he is still doing the business and there's the possibility that he would be in Ireland's squad as our no. 2. BTW Lionel Ritchie, Kahn hasn't been Germany's clear number one for a few years now.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 23/06/2007, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by Irish_Praha

BTW Lionel Ritchie, Kahn hasn't been Germany's clear number one for a few years now.

Kahn played his last competetive game for Germany last summer at the world cup aged 37. I acknowledge he wasn't Germanys no.1 at that stage but put it this way ...if Kahn was Irish then he'd be in and around our squad til he picked up his bus pass. It being the case that we'll never have the pool of players the likes of Germany get to pick from -it's not unreasonable to suppose an Irish keeper in his later 30's who's got two decades of experience at the top (or even a high) level behind him would be considered for the squad. Nick Colgan is 34, has scarcely set the world alight (did he ever play first team for Chelsea?) and still gets called up.

**Irish_Praha** · 23/06/2007, 7:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

Kahn played his last competetive game for Germany last summer at the world cup aged 37. I acknowledge he wasn't Germanys no.1 at that stage but put it this way ...if Kahn was Irish then he'd be in and around our squad til he picked up his bus pass. It being the case that we'll never have the pool of players the likes of Germany get to pick from -it's not unreasonable to suppose an Irish keeper in his later 30's who's got two decades of experience at the top (or even a high) level behind him would be considered for the squad. Nick Colgan is 34, has scarcely set the world alight (did he ever play first team for Chelsea?) and still gets called up.

Yeah sorry, re-reading your post you meant that Given would still be on the international scene in 7 years time, not necessarily that he would be no 1. I agree with that. However, I think that Given is very proud/competitive and once he sees himself as no. 2 he will quickly retire from the international scene and not hang around for a few years for the odd game like Kahn. He doesn't take being second too well, which was shown by his transfer request at Newcastle after Harper held onto his starting place when Given returned from an injury a few years ago.

**Torn-Ado** · 23/06/2007, 8:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bungle

Renton is Scottish

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ngPostCard.jpg

He is indeed Scottish

**bladebhoy** · 26/06/2007, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Laurence Gaughan is a young centre half at Liverpool, of whom great things are expected. He is a "footballing" centre back who can pass & therefore play more in the continental style. Still a youth, he is a wild card bet... but will be about 24 in 2014.

He was offered a pro deal with Celtic and has left his scholarship with liverpool to sign for the hoops..