QuoteNot at all, just find it mildly amusing that you are in love with yourself too much. Ever heard of self praise is no praise. Alex Bruce won't be anywhere near any first choice Irish team in the next 5 years in my view.
Ha ha. I sense an air of bitterness in your tone child. No Alex Bruce on that list I see.Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Last edited by youngirish; 18/06/2007 at 4:43 PM.
Not at all, just find it mildly amusing that you are in love with yourself too much. Ever heard of self praise is no praise. Alex Bruce won't be anywhere near any first choice Irish team in the next 5 years in my view.
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You were saying he was like an Irish (English?) Franz Beckenbauer a few weeks ago against my claim that he was slighty sh*te if I recall correctly. You also said Potter was like a young Diego Maradona if memory serves me correctly and John O'Shea reminds you of Garrincha tearing up and down the wing for Ireland when he gets forward, except more skillful.
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To be honest Ireland, McShane & O'Brien were very easy calls indeed, no great judgement required to predict they would be in the shake up . Lets see your future team then if you are so good, others (no doubt less talented than yourself) have been prepared to predict a future line up?
Difficult I agree, but not "impossible" at least for getting a handful correct - some scouts are very highly paid for this ability.
Actually the best prediction on that thread was Pete's: I predict a drought.
Ireland, McShane and O'Brien hadn't even a handful of games between them when I started that thread so it's rubbish to suggest it was easy to predict that they'd be in the Ireland setup in the positions predicted in 3 years considering there were lots of better known young players about such as Potter, Flood, Yeates and Whelan. Hindsight is a great thing.
As for predicting a team 7 years down the line that just doesn't make any sense. It's pure guesswork.
Last edited by youngirish; 18/06/2007 at 6:05 PM.
It was easy - Ireland & O'Brien were breaking into premiership teams & getting games in the premiership. And getting great reviews, how many other young Irish players were in the same position? My granny could have predicted they were likely to make a contribution for Ireland. Nil points. This was not the case with Potter, Yeates or Whelan. Flood I agree, for a while looked like he had something to offer at City, though his physical limitations were well covered & obvious to anyone who watched him.
Again there was huge buzz about McShane. Tell me something I don't know already? How much money did you bet on the 2008 banker ? The accurate prediction I read on that thread was from Pete.
BTW top managers and scouts are regularly working up to 7 years ahead - it's one of the objectives that they are paid for. Nowadays millions is spent on teenagers who will not realise a return on investment for 6/7 years. Anyway the thread was intended as a mild diversion over the summer months, though I would add that the English team I referred to earlier already looked strong with the likes of Walcott, Foster & others.
A prediction usually involves some form of guesswork - as opposed to a sure fire banker. An inspired prediction might be regarded as one that is not shared by every other fan.
"Mystic Meg wilh balls" hey.... more like Russell Grant - & I don't believe he has any.
Billy Clarke is one I forgot about.We should get a good idea about his potential
next season.There seems to be conflicting views about how good he is.
ya exlude him alrite.
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Sure fire banker. You talk some sh*te. It was great to see you on the site backing up my claim with your sure fire banker. Don't be talking such rubbish Potter and Flood both had much more Premiership experience then all the players I mentioned. In fact McShane had only joined Brigthon on loan (a bottom of the Championship side) and O'Brien I don't think had started a Premiership game. Ireland probably had started one or two (much less than Flood had for the same team). McGeady was being touted at the time as the best young player who had arrived on the scene for years. Notice I didn't have him in my team? Lots of other players were thrown into the mix Whelan, Garvan etc. As I said you're a great man with hindsight. I'd say your a great laugh in the pub with your claims that you should be a millionaire if you backed all those horses you knew would win.
As for the most accurate prediction on the site being Pete's, more crap which proves you don't have a clue. We are a better team now than 2 years ago when we couldn't buy a win. Fairly abstract prediction anyway. We are going to go through a drought. What sort of drought? We never have won anything anyway. Not qualifying for anything? If that's the case we have been more or less in a drought for 11 years anyway when he made that amazing prediction.
As for scouts predicting players who are going to be good 7 years down the road. Stop smoking the crack. How many 11 or 12 year olds have any of the top Premiership teams bought lately? As I said that's pure guesswork they are working off 3-4 years max. You can't predict if a 14 year old is going to be any good by the time he reaches his early 20's. It's impossible. You can predict to a point a 17, 18 or 19 year old though who is already playing first team football.
Last edited by youngirish; 19/06/2007 at 4:00 PM.
There's this post I wrote a while back on a similar topic - the progress of players from the underage sides to the senior team.
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=24967
I think the number of players from the U-19 team at the end of the post who have gone on to play for the senior team, compared to the number from the U-19 team at the start of the post is interesting, there's far more, and I would imagine more of the players from that second lineup who have not played senior international football yet will go on to play for the senior team, than from the first lineup (if that makes sense)
Doyle
O'Shea - RB
O'Halloran - LB
Dunne - CB
McShane - CB
Hunt
Tracey
Ireland
Garvan
Stokes
Doyle
In the centre of defence, I could have gone for either O'Dea or Nolan, as I think both have great futures. Whoever suggested Gaughan as a wild card shout deserves credit as by all accounts he's a great future. I don't think he'll make it at Liverpool, but I could see him being another McShane i.e making it back to the top through a Championship club. I think O'Shea will still be on the scene and Dunne will be captain. He'll only be about 33/34 then so should still be around for another campaign. He's a top player who loves playing for his country. I chose O'Halloran purely because I was impressed with him in the games over in the States.
Midfield was arguably the hardest. If Hunt continues to play like he has this season, then I would expect him to be around in 7 years time. He'll only be around 31/32. Tracey is my wild card entry, as I read the other day that he's considered to be the most gifted youth player at Blackburn since old Damo. I've only seen him once, but I've a feeling he'll be the young Irish player to make it in the premiership next season. In the centre, one can't really look past Stephen Ireland. He's a tremendously gifted player, who will get even better with time. He's got a tremendous scoring record for us and City fans rave about him. Garvan is another superbly gifted footballer who has the talent to go very far. Alot of my Ipswich supporting mates expect him to be a premiership player in no time, with or without them. They all highlight his footballing brain. I think that Chris McCann, Spillane and Joey O'Brien will be hovering around the place also.
Up front, I've gone for Stokes and Doyle. Stokes has the talent to be top class. Whatever you think about Keano, a player of Stokes's potential won't be allowed to get above station with him as his manager. Doyle is I believe already a top striker.
I would be concerned that Robbie Keane may retire when he feels he's unlikely to be guaranteed a starting place. He'd still be 34 and might be an invaluable player to have coming on for the last 20 minutes of games. Andy Keogh is another potentially top player, but I think Stokes is better. Long should be a squad player.
no it isn't , time to get over the san marino game TP , we 've played 4 since then and are unbeaten. most likely we will come third in this group so we will not be sinking any further in the rankings , it's still possible to qualify and it's in our own hands.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I'm not sure about 7 years we may need to use some of these guys soon. I have a suspicion that if we fail to qualify (still the best bet) we'll see a spate of retirements, my predictions are:
Finnan
Duff
O'Shea
Kilbane
Carsley (again!)
Carr (again!)
That's half our team and I's also worry about Dunne, Given and Keane
The only person I could see retiting from the above is Carr.
kris Renton up front, Crackin player(Norwich). keith Keane could be there(Luton). Michael Spillane(Norwich).Gareth Matthews(Norwich). Owen Garvan(Ipswich). Michael McCann(Burnley I think). Robert Brady(Liverpool). Ian Daly (Man City)
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Renton is Scottish and I think played with us I believe before deciding to switch allegiances back to his native land.
Matthews is really highly rated at Norwich, as is another lad from Dublin who signed with him (I can't think of his name). To be honest, I think clubs like Norwich and Ipswich are the best places for highly talented young lads, as they get a good footballing education at a decent sized club. For every O'Shea, there's 7 or 8 Richie Partridges in big clubs.
Gibson might be an interesting lad to throw into the mix, as is Marc Wilson and O'Kane (last I heard he was doing very well on loan in Belgium).
Renton is scottish yes, he played for our set a few times, but the coach at Norwich is scottish himself, and he convinced Renton to go to Scotland. Now from what I know he didn't like it, and now could be close to an under 21 call up for ire. Also his dad has always said he wanted him to play for ire, which is good to hear.
That other lad from Dublin is Kurtis Byrne, good player. Played with Orchard up front with Mikey Collins. Now he has a good partnership with Renton(well did since Renton is now in the senior team)
And as for McCann yeah it Chris, sorry about that.
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