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    i never said they did, i assume you are talking to mon_cutie there. kerry did enough to win it.

    btw did anyone hear whelan say " we had to do a job against derry and we did that job" . it annoys me on two fronts using soccer parlance in gaelic and the fact they were obviouslly being cocky in that they had one eye in the semi-final. I heard that out of context so maybe it was meant in terms of the second half but if not its not on.
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    It's the commentators who drive me demented with their cute expressions, strangely enough it's the soccer commentator, Maloney, who does the best commentary.

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    All credit to Mon they deserved to win but have to say i thought Kerry were poor on the day (Cooper and Russell come to mind) they seemed to be lumping the ball again and again into the box hoping for it to break to one of their players, only when they started taking their points in the last 10 mins did they take the lead. Still its a sign of a good team if they played like that and still beat a very good Monaghan side, acually there was periods of the Munster final were they were poor aswell but i think the fact they didnt panic and their experience and confidence have seen them through.

    Thats just the opinion of someone who aint mad about the sport tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    NO, you didnt, if you had you would have won. Kerry kept close enough throughout without over exerting themselves. As much as I would have liked to see monaghan win, kerry were the better team and they won fairly. Monaghan just didnt have/do enough to win it.

    yeah i agree 100% with that
    Kerry actually played very well in the last 10 mins.....when they were under pressure........as they always do when they have to play
    otherwise they are like galway and Cork, in that they cant be ar sed to play unless they are under extreme pressure, which they werent really

    But fair play to Monaghan they played well, and im sure they will be around again

    still think Kerry will win the all ireland

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    yeah i agree 100% with that

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    Thumbs up

    I would just like to point out, poor consolation I know,
    Vincent Corey was player of the month last month and this month the accolade went to Tommy Freeman.
    Tommy had taken off a cast on his arm in order to play on Sunday.

    Not to mention the burly Rory Woods, awarded the MOM on Sunday.
    A scrap of comfort in the recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    If the Dubs can play for 70 minutes instead of their usual 60 they have every chance of winning.
    i think thats complete bull everybody saying dublin are having bad patches in games. no team can possibly dominate a game for a full 70 minutes. Sure didnt monaghan lead kerry 1-2 to 0-1. if that was dublin everybdy would have been sh1teing on about how dublin had drifted out of a game once again. i dont buy any of that bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mon_cutie07 View Post
    nah
    Thanks pal, guess you'll keep the ticket for yourself seeing as we're now your adopted county!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers fan View Post
    i think thats complete bull everybody saying dublin are having bad patches in games. no team can possibly dominate a game for a full 70 minutes. Sure didnt monaghan lead kerry 1-2 to 0-1. if that was dublin everybdy would have been sh1teing on about how dublin had drifted out of a game once again. i dont buy any of that bull.
    Not sure if you actually watched the game on Saturday but with about 10 minutes to go Dublin led by 0-18 to 0-11. They let Derry back into the game by conceding the last four points of the game. In that same period, Eoin Bradley forced two great saves from Stephen Cluxton and Barry Cahill blocked a goal bound effort from Paddy Bradley. A game Dublin should have had wrapped up, they could have easily lost.

    You might also remember last year's semi-final against Mayo, when Dublin led by 7 points after 45 minutes. 10 minutes later they were 1 point down after Mayo scored 1-5 without Dublin scoring. Dublin lost.

    When Dublin played Tyrone in the League in the first floodlight game at Croke Park back in February, at half time, after 35 minutes Dublin were 0-7 to 0-2 ahead, after 55 minutes they were 0-9 to 0-8 down. Tyrone got 6 of the last 7 points scored. Dublin lost.

    If those three examples are not bad patches, fading out of a game or switching off or whatever you want to call it, then I don't know what is.

    Like it or not, Dublin have a tendency to do this. You might think it is 'bull', but if they have any spells like this against Kerry, Dublin will lose.
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    but you could say the same for any team if you were looking back over the last year or so. mayo 1st half against kerry in all ireland final, galway 2nd half gainst sligo this year. etc etc etc.

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    I'd agree with Superhoops, Dublin are an exception, when Dublin turn off they go into some dead zone. It's inexplicable, one long period they are supreme, game won no question, then some form of paralysis sets in.
    The 2 certainties about recent GAA championships, the Dublin dormant phase and a Mayo AIF performance.
    I'd expect that the Kerry game plan has to change with Donaghy, possibly play a role like O'Rourke effectivly did for Meath against Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkfish View Post
    Thanks pal, guess you'll keep the ticket for yourself seeing as we're now your adopted county!

    hmm maybe, maybe not, have to see what happens!!
    adopted? wouldnt go that far
    lifes too short!!

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    I don't think Saturday's performance is comparable to Dublin collapses in previous years. 7 points down with 10 minutes left, Derry always needed a goal, and the fact that they had earlier been unable to convert two good chances didn't help their case. Moreover, Dublin showed both this weekend and during the Leinster final that they are excellent at defending their goal.
    I suppose it could have backfired, but you never really got the feeling that Dublin were going to lose this one; it was always more of a case of job done, wind down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    ...oh look a blue moon, oh and theirs a pig flying.....

    funny, but really it was that good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marked Man View Post
    it was always more of a case of job done, wind down.
    Was it really? Tell that to the screaming Dubs sitting beside me who couldn't watch when Derry had the goal chances at the end.

    I'm not sure you can describe a team who were only one blocked goal chance away from not winning it as having "the job done".

    The game SHOULD'VE been over, but Dublin's inherent psychological flaws mean't that they nearly cocked it up.

    Typical post-fact rationalisation....

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    The game SHOULD'VE been over, but Dublin's inherent psychological flaws mean't that they nearly cocked it up.

    Typical post-fact rationalisation....

    or arrogance?
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    Cool

    On a different tack did anyone notice the Monaghan player laughing & pushing Donaghy twice when he shot wide of the goal in the 2nd half. Had a wry smile on my face thinking of the headlines if a Dub had the temerity to do that.
    And you ask me to help you??!! Man is evil!!!! Capable of nothing but destruction!

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    Certainly not arrogance; I've been watching the Dubs far too long to feel arrogant about them. The fact is, they won by 3 pulling up. Yes, they tuned out towards the end, but that was at least in part due to Caffrey making a rake of subs. Why did he do this? Because the game was won.

    Mayo last year was very different--their comeback started with goals (similarly the disastrous second half start against Kildare in the Leinster final back a few years ago). Those goals rattled Dublin.
    Now if Derry had taken one of their earlier goal chances, Dublin would probably not have had a 7 point lead going into the last ten, and we would have seen a very different last few minutes (of course, if we hadn't had that lead, we wouldn't have switched off...). But Derry didn't take those chances, and they just weren't going to come back into the game.


    In any event, I think this whole "switching off" will be irrelevant come Sunday week, as Dublin only switch off when they have a big lead, and it's highly unlikely that they'll find themselves in any such situation in the semi.

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    By the way, ORA, you must be looking forward to a handy day out on Sunday, since, as you mentioned earlier in the thread, Leinster football is muck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marked Man View Post
    By the way, ORA, you must be looking forward to a handy day out on Sunday, since, as you mentioned earlier in the thread, Leinster football is muck.
    Ulster football is also muck, and has been for the last few years since Armagh and Tyrone started to decline.

    Difference is that you didn't get any Derry fans labouring under the impression we were world beaters. QF was as far as we deserved and we got there and came away with a respectable result.

    You've had 3 handy provincial championships in a row and have done nothing of note, despite having a ridiculous home advantage in almost every game (still complaining about being made to go to Longford?).

    Face it, the Dubs recent record is pitiful.

    I actually like the football Dublin play when they are on form, very fast paced and good to watch, but I still think Caffrey is a poor tactician and the psychological backbone is missing from a lot of the players.

    Go ahead and win Sam and prove me wrong!

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