World Ranking

**paul_oshea** · 01/04/2015, 3:40 PM

So did cape verde.

**geysir** · 01/04/2015, 3:46 PM

Gather Round insults the OWC, yet again.

It's Utopia not Ultonia

**davidatrb** · 01/04/2015, 6:15 PM

Here is how I think it is looking like for July for the seedings. Most teams have only one or two games to play so it probably wont look a whole bunch different. April's release is not as relevant there are alot of World Cup matches that will severely drop in importance by the time the July release rolls around.

http://fog2014.blogspot.ie/2015/03/july-release.html

Wales are actually seriously close to making Pot 1! They have belgium to play, win that and I would imagine them in Pot 1.

http://fog2014.blogspot.ie/2015/04/w...ng-points.html

We have two games left to improve our average England and Scotland. Link below is the rest of the games already played and ranking points earned with respect of July 2015 ranknig release..

http://fog2014.blogspot.ie/2015/03/i...ng-points.html

I did my best to get the ranking points and matches as accurate as possible but I'm sure I have some miscalcutaions there, or FIFA have calculated some points differently from I have.

**geysir** · 02/04/2015, 4:11 PM

Those predictions leave us stranded all alone, a well beaten 4th place in the Eur 2016 qual group.

**davidatrb** · 03/04/2015, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Those predictions leave us stranded all alone, a well beaten 4th place in the Eur 2016 qual group.

Yes, we are stranded a little in the Rankings, but that will start to pick up. From July 2013 to July 2014 we only won 2 games from 12 (Kazakhstan and Latvia) - the importance of all these losses will start to fade in time. Since July 2014 we have already won 3 from 6, actually accrued more points than Scotland in that period despite them beating us.

So although the overall points make us look like a street behind Scotland, recent form seems to disagree.

Its a direct battle between Scotland and Ireland for the play off place in Euro Qualifying and I think it will be very close.

**BonnieShels** · 09/04/2015, 11:28 AM

Up to 62 in the latest rankings.

Would we win the Carling Nations Cup if held this year?
http://m.rte.ie/sport/soccer/interna...fifa-rankings/

**davidatrb** · 10/04/2015, 8:20 AM

England (now 14th) and Scotland (now 29th) up, thats good. We will get more ranking points when we beat them both in June.

**Bungle** · 17/04/2015, 11:30 AM

I was reading that UEFA are really pushing for Europe to get an extra place for 2018, so if they did Europe would have 14 plus Russia.

Unfortunately, Blatter is promising the sun, moon and stars to Africa and Asia to get re-elected so I can't see it happening. Personally, I think that all corners of the world should be represented, but Europe has too many good sides that doesn't qualify for the world cup, so if they had a system whereby each region got a certain amount of spots and then there were play-offs between regions to get the remaining few places. You could argue likewise that South America gets too many, but I disagree and would nearly feel that they could get another place, as their teams are of a very good standard and add to the world cup.

Let's say Europe's 14th team played off against other regions' worse placed team for the final place that might be the fairest way of doing things.

**Gather round** · 17/04/2015, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bungle

Europe has too many good sides that doesn't qualify for the world cup

Hard to argue that given that so many of the European qualifiers were so mediocre in Brazil, surely?

so if they had a system whereby each region got a certain amount of spots and then there were play-offs between regions to get the remaining few places...Let's say Europe's 14th team played off against other regions' worse placed team for the final place that might be the fairest way of doing things

Last time the last two places were decided by play-offs including a team from each of North and South America, Asia and Oceania. I suppose you could add Europe and Africa to that list.

**bennocelt** · 17/04/2015, 7:36 PM

Originally Posted by Gather round

Hard to argue that given that so many of the European qualifiers were so mediocre in Brazil, surely?

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I thought the African and Asian teams were pretty poor, (apart from Algeria)

**Stuttgart88** · 17/04/2015, 7:53 PM

Australia were pretty respectable despite their results.

**DeLorean** · 17/04/2015, 8:14 PM

They were involved in two entertaining games alright but conceding nine goals in three games is pretty shabby. That's the same as us at the Euros, only difference is they had Tim Cahill to produce the ridiculous. Okay that wasn't the only difference.

**bennocelt** · 18/04/2015, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Australia were pretty respectable despite their results.

Yeah I guess, but i forgot they are now "Asian"

**Wolfman** · 19/04/2015, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by davidatrb

England (now 14th) and Scotland (now 29th) up, thats good. We will get more ranking points when we beat them both in June.

We wish!

Lol.

**Bungle** · 19/04/2015, 11:37 AM

Europe and the Central/South American teams were by far the most competitive at the world cup. Asia and African teams were poor.

I can see an argument for there being more African and Asian teams at the World Cup given the size of their continents and the fact that the World Cup is meant to represent the world game. However, if we look at the quality of teams from Europe and the Americas, then they should be represented with more teams. Right now, Ireland are depressingly mediocre, but I'd fancy us to be in with a good shout to qualify from Asia and maybe Africa, and we are a third/fourth quality European nation.

A round robin tournament for the extra place (or 2) might be the fairest.

**tricky_colour** · 20/04/2015, 10:43 PM

Blimey, we are 62nd!!!

Not good.

**davidatrb** · 04/06/2015, 8:45 PM

Okay so there is a long shot chance that we can make a miraculous leap to 19th in UEFA before next month. That would be good enough for Pot 2 in the WC2018 draw next month.

And all we need is:

For us to beat England and Scotland.
Poland to lose to Georgia, or Ukraine to lose to Luxembourg.
N. Ireland to lose to Romania.
Iceland to lose to Czech Republic.
Sweden to lose or draw with one of Norway or Montenegro.
Hungary to lose or draw with Finland.
Israel and Bosnia to draw.
And Slovenia to lose to or draw with England.

By my calculations anyway.

**nigel-harps1954** · 04/06/2015, 9:03 PM

About half of that is likely to happen..

**DeLorean** · 04/06/2015, 9:06 PM

**davidatrb** · 04/06/2015, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

About half of that is likely to happen..

Yes, but the most unlikely to happen is probably Ireland to beat both Scotland and England, it will be us who let ourselves down again.

Also very unlikely to happen would be Poland to lose to Georgia, its 9/1 with paddypower.

Check http://fog2014.blogspot.ie/2015/06/w...on-plan-b.html for points currently earned toward July rankings and some notes on how it could go down in Ireland's favour.