World Ranking

[tetsujin1979]

Ah yes, the Irish press; misinformed as usual... Thanks for the clarification.

So, why doesn't the fixture appear in our FIFA list of past fixtures?

there's an investigation at the moment into the eligibility of one of the linesmen. FIFA aren't recognising it as a fixture until it's resolved
it's the same reason as Duff caps being reduced to 99, but caps are awarded at the discretion of the associations involved, so if the FAI want to award Duff a cap for it, FIFA aren't going to interfere

[DannyInvincible]

there's an investigation at the moment into the eligibility of one of the linesmen. FIFA aren't recognising it as a fixture until it's resolved
it's the same reason as Duff caps being reduced to 99, but caps are awarded at the discretion of the associations involved, so if the FAI want to award Duff a cap for it, FIFA aren't going to interfere

Sorry, yes; I was aware of that. Got confused for a sec. Thought FIFA had included it in our ranking points average.

[Closed Account]

Feb 2008 - Republic Of Ireland 36th in the world

Nov 2012 - Republic Of Ireland 37th in the world.

18th to 37th in 5 months. Ouch.
http://www.football-rankings.info/20...review-ii.html

[paul_oshea]

Its more than right and fair though to be honest.

[nigel-harps1954]

Trap out.

[swinfordfc]

37th ...... its where we should be in all honesty!

[p2011]

37th ...... its where we should be in all honesty!

Indeed it is! Where are all the "Trap gets us results" and "Trap increased our rankings" merchants now? Our rankings are in free fall and I can't remember many decent competitive results against decent opposition in about 3 years! Take the blinkers off lads, drop the mantras of faith and analyze the situation as it as.

[DannyInvincible]

Where are all the "Trap gets us results" and "Trap increased our rankings" merchants now?

Those statements were true at one point, but obviously not of late.

[DeLorean]

Indeed it is! Where are all the "Trap gets us results" and "Trap increased our rankings" merchants now? Our rankings are in free fall and I can't remember many decent competitive results against decent opposition in about 3 years! Take the blinkers off lads, drop the mantras of faith and analyze the situation as it as.

We'll be back up to 18th after beating Sweden and Austria.

[John83]

Indeed it is! Where are all the "Trap gets us results" and "Trap increased our rankings" merchants now? Our rankings are in free fall and I can't remember many decent competitive results against decent opposition in about 3 years! Take the blinkers off lads, drop the mantras of faith and analyze the situation as it as.

So those arguments were never valid because they're no longer valid?

[Charlie Darwin]

We've dropped down the rankings despite winning the games we were expected to win and losing the game we were expected to lose. We were always unlikely to beat Serbia away. The rankings argument is as valid or invalid as it ever was.

[p2011]

So those arguments were never valid because they're no longer valid?

No. They just haven't been valid for about three years now.

[tetsujin1979]

No. They just haven't been valid for about three years now.

so they weren't valid when we were getting results and increasing our ranking?

[p2011]

so they weren't valid when we were getting results and increasing our ranking?

Is it necessary to get so philosophical and so troll-y? Of course results and rankings are a valid measure of success. Did I say they weren't? Results and rankings are valid... alongside the atmosphere in team, development for the future, performances, tactical flexibility, and making fans feel like they can identify with the team.

People say Trap is great because he gets us results and improved the rankings. My opinion: The rankings are dropping and I can't remember a decent performance/result in any game where it mattered for a good while now. How complicated is that?

Feel free to disagree or point out flaws in my thinking or memory, but don't twist my words.

[Dermotron]

30th in the World Football Elo Ratings which imo are a better system.

Even though I find it hard to justify Colombia 9th and 10th in the respective ranking systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_F...Top_60_ranking

[p2011]

30th in the World Football Elo Ratings which imo are a better system.

Even though I find it hard to justify Colombia 9th and 10th in the respective ranking systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_F...Top_60_ranking

All true, but any team with Falcao who beat Uruguay 4-0 can't be too bad.

[DeLorean]

Rankings-wise, would we have been better off not qualifying for the Euros, say getting eliminated by Estonia after two draws on away goals? It seems a bit mad to me that we could have dropped that many places after, basically, one defeat to Germany. Hungary have started their campaign similarly to ourselves, haven't even really challenged to qualify for the previous few tournaments and are seven places ahead of us. They have actually lost eight qualifying games in the space of time we have lost two, granted they've had one or two impressive victories in that time.

[swinfordfc]

36th in the world rankings on Wednesday!

[DannyInvincible]

Rankings-wise, would we have been better off not qualifying for the Euros, say getting eliminated by Estonia after two draws on away goals?

I found it difficult to believe that that could have been possible, but I'm pretty sure that someone confirmed earlier in the thread that we would have been better off not qualifying for the Euros at all in terms of our ranking.

[DeLorean]

I found it difficult to believe that that could have been possible, but I'm pretty sure that someone confirmed earlier in the thread that we would have been better off not qualifying for the Euros at all in terms of our ranking.

Thanks Danny, I just checked back over the previous page and it is, indeed, discussed at length. No wonder nobody could be arsed answering me!