Aye, Germany are seen as the official successor to West Germany. Today's Germany are considered to have won the World Cup in 1990 even though they were then West Germany. If East Germany had ever won the World Cup, I don't think it would be historically classified as a triumph for the present German team. East Germany are deemed defunct by FIFA, along with Saarland, South Vietnam and South Yemen.
So....of all of these nations that have changed names and borders over the years, only 4 are deemed defunct? That's amazing.
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As we beat the champs we should be top of the rankings.
If we are not Blatter must go.
This list of losses by the world champions was posted on Twitter yesterday, not sure how accurate it is though: https://twitter.com/irish_abroad/sta...20677077729280
The Polish ranking of 44th was released on the 23rd of October, as far as I can make out, whilst they were 70th from the previous release when they would have beaten Germany on the 11th of October, 2014.
I believe that Germany have been world champions on four occasions and we have beaten them during three of their reigns; in 1954, 1994 and 2015.
So we're up twelve places to 42nd and ahead of Scotland. Things can change pretty fast in the wonderfully flimsy world of the FIFA World Rankings.
Austria were 40th at the start of qualifying and lie 10th now. To be fair they had an outstanding qualification campaign in what looked a very difficult group at the outset.
Worth noting Belgium are now the best team in the world apparently, for the first time ever. Wales drop 7 to 15, back below England.
Bosnia up 10 places to number 20.
I find it impossible to understand Belgium being top of the pile. It was hardly a flawless qualification campaign and what have they actually done to set them apart? I'm sure the maths work out but it's just daft.
While, unfortunately, it won't improve Ireland's seeding for the draw next month, the win tonight is surely going to propel the team up a good few more places? 22 in the difference, actual quality notwithstanding.
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I'm guessing between 30-35th placed in December rankings
Slightly annoying now that the World Cup draw was done before the Euros ended, as has usually been the case.
Though we didn't get the worst of groups in the end, so no point complaining too much I guess.
We be 31st and N Ireland will be 30th so all good
Not really... I would prefer them to be 32...Originally Posted by swinfordfc
We be 31st and N Ireland will be 30th so all good
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This is how the December rankings are expected to look:
According to this, we'll be the fourth-best movers in the world for 2015.
I'd love to know what the WC groups would look like if the draw was done now, ie. if those teams drawn were switched for teams now occupyimng those positions.This is how the December rankings are expected to look:
According to this, we'll be the fourth-best movers in the world for 2015.
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The rankings are truly a farce.
Probably about accurate for us actually, but it baffles me how you can come up with a system that has Bosnia above Poland, never mind France.
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Belgium the best? Switzerland 12th? Hungary 20th? Bosnia 22nd? France 25th? Poland 34th?.....Yes indeed
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I see what you did there. Very good
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I'm sure everyone has a good idea of how the rankings are calculated, but this article is a good synopsis of the process, and a good read:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...raw-friendlies
Fifa's ranking system heavily rewards competitive fixtures – a European team will get 2.5 times more points for a result in World Cup qualifying than the same result against the same team at the same time in a friendly. The most points it is possible to win in a friendly – by beating the world's No1 team – is 600, which is still below Switzerland's average. If even winning a friendly can hurt a top team's ranking, imagine the damage that drawing or losing can do.
So, I did out all WCQ groups as they would have been drawn if the December rankings were used.
(NB* There is an anomaly in that England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Netherlands would HAVE to be in 6 team groups, but I am not sure of the criteria for moving them on to a 6 team group as they were drawn in July so it isn't an exact reflection but it can be edited as soon as someone clears that up.)
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