QuoteSars bout that Wolfie.
I never managed to work out what the Macedonian lad was sent off for. Very unfair if you ask me.
I never really warmed to Jason McAteer if i'm being honest.
Sars bout that Wolfie.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
what about finnan, houghton,stan,aldo,whelan etcOriginally Posted by Paddy Garcia
babb was utter ****e, kennedy overrated ,mcateer joined lfc at a bad time when we had mcmananman,redknapp,ince to fight for places
this is the man who according to his newspaper column 'feigned fitness' before the world cup in 2002, lied to McCarthy in order to play against Cameroon and encouraged Mark Kennedy to lie about his fitness so that he too would make the squad.
"You need dictatorships and poverty to produce great footballers."
that's what he said in his column in the paper (sindo I think)
Post no 6 here:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=95845#post95845
Trigger was a good servant to Ireland but this episode reflects badly on him.
He was clearly unfit in the first half against Cameroon and was letting us down by playing in the first place
"You need dictatorships and poverty to produce great footballers."
yeah forgot about that cameroon incident-very poor on his part but maybe he just thought he deserved it or something-besides im sure mccarthy and coaching staff really knew he wasnt up for it. he was flattened by that nigerian in that warm up game and could barely walk.
mccarthy should have taken him off well before half time in that game having seen him limp around after only 10 mins.
anyway thats history. will always remember his 2 goals against the dutch.
I
Indeed. One of my reasons for not being ever so keen on him. I got the impression (from reading said columm) that he seemed to think he had a devine right to play in the World Cup after his goals against Holland and winning the penalty against Iran (by diving if i remember rightly).
Theres no 'I' in 'team' Jason.
What player with a sniff of a chance of playing wouldn't have sold their mother to get out on to the pitch. It's up to the manager to take the final decision based on fitness tests.
One of the reasons for not ever being keen on him was right at the end of his career?
That's foresight for you.
My opinion of McAteer started to wane during his 'spice boys' days at Liverpool, which resulted in his big money transfer to the club he supported as a boy ending with him moving to a then 1st Divison Blackburn in an attemp to kick start his career. As an Ireland fan, that disappointed me greatly. His sending off in the game against Macedoina while representating Ireland was utterly shameful and I feel ashamed everytime i see it.
Credit where its due, but these reasons added to the 'feigned fitness' issue and his selfish attitude (my opinion, of course) in his Independent columm didnt particulary endear McAteer to me.
Last edited by stiofain; 14/06/2007 at 8:55 PM.
That doesn't make any sense...?
Can't fault a player to moving to the club he's always supported. Can't fault a player for wanting to kick start his career. There's plenty of others would have stayed on at Liverpool just to say they were a Liverpool player (Richie Partridge springs to mind).
"at least the Keane thing showed his passion...."
what a stupid statement...
I am specifically talking about the period post Houghton, I am surprised you did not mention Highway. Before that it was a great place for Irish talent, since then a graveyard.
Only Finnan has bucked the trend. Kennedy often played centre forward for Milwall & Liverpool stuck him out on the wing & never built on the outstanding talent they bought.
McAteer was the most promising midfielder in the country. Liverpool bought him & stuck him at full back - criminal. I can barely think of a worse disservice to Irish soccer, cept destroying Kennedy's talent.
Babb was an outstanding talent when he moved to Anfield, only to be seduced by the drinking culture that enveloped this club. Another destroyed. They also failed to build on the not inconsiderable talent that was Partridge. If he had started at Man U I am sure he would be gracing the premiership and Ireland today. I am praying that young McCarthy avoids their overtures.
And when Stan went back there he did not fair much better.
Fair play to Finnan for avoiding the Liverpool Irish abyss.
Why ? Explain rather than offer a glib comment ? Or maybe you can't!
Totally agree
Purely pedantic point: wasn't it a local Japanese side?
I really admired Kennedy being big enough to admit he wasn't fit.
Was it Nagasaki or Hiroshima?
Edit - Sanfreece Hiroshima. Tackled by a Cameroon player.
Last edited by pineapple stu; 14/06/2007 at 8:13 PM.
But that isnt my point. Surely you can see that i'm refering to his 'playboy' behaviour off the pitch which coinceded with his underachievement at Liverpool. Had he been tucked up in bed at 10 o'clock every night instead of out on the **** with Robbie Fowler, Steve McManaman and co. (or whatever it was they got upto) his career might have gone from strength to strength, thus benefiting Ireland. Whos to know?
Your right in saying that McAteer deserves admiration for moving on when it would have been easier to stay at Liverpool and colect his pay cheque like many others have done (Richie Partridge included) but Liverpool didnt pay a big transfer fee for him so they could sell him on to a first division club a few years later. Personally i believe that he failed at Liverpool and that disappoints me as an Ireland fan as common sense suggests we benefit from our players being as successful as possible at club level. Liverpool was the highest level McAteer played at in his club career, but his choice of lifestyle resulted in him not being able to cut it.
Sorry, I maybe shouldnt have worded the previous post in the way i did in order to avoid confusion.
Maybe, but earlier on this thread, it's suggested that Liverpool ruined him rather than he ruined himself at Liverpool, as it did to other Irish players (and indeed, other players). I don't think it's a coincidence that Babb, Kennedy and McAteer all failed to live up to their billing at Anfield.
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