QuoteNow hang on. Expect San Marino to improve as the group progresses. Id expect them to beat the Germans. If Wales play with the intensity they had in Prague id fancy them to win
Anyone fancy the Welsh to do us a favour here ? it would throw the group wide open if they got a point or dare i say it even won it. Czechs would then be on a very bad run having given it up at home to the Germans and getting lambasted in the press for partying afterwards.
Germans to hockey San Marino the same night. Welsh game live on SKY.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Now hang on. Expect San Marino to improve as the group progresses. Id expect them to beat the Germans. If Wales play with the intensity they had in Prague id fancy them to win
Originally Posted by carloz
Really ????
Yes....as the great man Stan predicted, San Marino will improve as the group progresses and will cause problems. Germany are probably petrified of playing them and will take a 1-1 draw
I'd be shocked if the Welsh won, draw not out of the question if Giggs is up for it and Bellamy doesn't get arrested between now and then
Best bet would be for them to coax Gary Speed, Mark Hughes, Ian Rush, Neville Southall and Eric Young (remember him?) out of retirement. Form a nice little unit.
I really fancy Wales to win this game. If they have all of their players back and fit then I can see a 1-0 here. Eastwood to score.
It would take a big effort to win this one. I know the Czechs aren't on the best of form but they are still a much better side than us on paper.
Eastwood will hopefully provide the goalscoring touch we've been missing but I'm not convinced he can do for Wales what he does at club level. We have failed to get Earnshaw to score for us regularly and he's scored consistently in the Premiership.
International football is much different to UK club football in it's style. It's more patient and more techincal. While I appreciate that Toshack is trying to get us playing that way, the problem is that the players don't play the same way for their clubs so they are used to the British hoof and chase style and can't be expected to adapt to the continental style of play with a few training sessions, no matter how talented the coach, so Toshack faces an uphill struggle for me despite his superb coaching abilities.
I've always felt that Wales and England (and to a lesser extent Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Republic) have under-achieved in world football. I think England do well despite their style of play not because of it while we have not achieved anything in years.
I feel what is needed is a more technically based game down to grass roots level. Players should be encouraged to get the ball down and pass it rather than play long ball. This applies to all home nations. I feel we could achieve more if that was the case as we've all had some very good players over the years.
i hear ya cymro but you're asking a bit much i reckon , it would take a serious rethink in the minds of all those coaches out there . anyway I'm hoping tosh outfoxes the czechs in a couple of weeks time.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I think however awkward it may seem now it's the way to go long term. Our ball retention has improved dramatically under Toshack we just need a cutting edge. If Bellamy could finish it'd be a help.
he was putting them away in scotland , dotn know what happened to him at liverpool
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Yeah but to be fair some of the teams in Scotland would be League 1 or even League 2 whereas in the Premiership the standard is consistently more difficult.
He had a good season at Blackburn, but I get the feeling that he will only score goals prolifically if he is the focal point of the team and the opposition is not always the best. That was the case at Blackburn where he was putting them away against the likes of Portsmouth and Man City but may not be the case for Wales where he plays against better opposition and is maybe not the focal point of the team. And that is certainly not the case at the 'pool where the likes of Gerrard, Alonso, even Crouch play a more prominent role.
He also needs about 5 chances before he finally sticks one away. Unfortunate but true.
He's rumoured to be leaving for Aston Villa in the summer, hopefully that one comes off. He needs regular football.
Last edited by Cymro; 07/05/2007 at 5:40 PM.
predictions ??
I say 1-1
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Eastwood's out of it now, so I'll go for 1-0 to the Czechs.
We'll try to hold out for a draw but an individual error will let us down and we won't be able to score, as usual.
will there be much of an attendance cymro ?
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I don't know to be honest. I will be there as I was for San Marino but only about 18,000 have been turning up for our recent games as results haven't been good.
With it being the Czechs I imagine it would add a bit to the crowd but I would still expect the place to be no more than half to two thirds full which means about 35,000-40,000 at the game.
lack of other football alternatives will surely bring a few out , long boring summer ahead except for the lads in ireland and sweden who can go to domestic games.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I don't know to be honest. I will be there as I was for San Marino but only about 18,000 have been turning up for our recent games as results haven't been good.
With it being the Czechs I imagine it would add a bit to the crowd but I would still expect the place to be no more than half to two thirds full which means about 35,000-40,000 at the game.
how do you get tickets for the games there? It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to look into it now especially if Ireland have a meaningful game in November and Wales don't. Ireland will take over lots of fans and I'm damned if I'd pay tout prices. I know you mightn't want non welsh fans in the Wales sections, but imagine the sight of a crowded Irish end of 7-odd thousand, and the remaining sixty thousand seats barely half full.
I think we'll sell out for the Irish game whether or not we're in a position to qualify. It was the same with England in the last campaign.
Well Cymro just a little off topic but what was the crowd like when you played the Czechs away in September, just to know for ourselves when we start trying to get tickets.
But I can see Wales pulling off a draw maybe 1-1, Tosh won't give it to the Czechs on a plate after your poor recent results and I'd say he'll have his pplayers well up for this match.
COME ON WALES!!!!
San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on." - Steve Staunton reacts to performance against San Marino.
We played the Czechs in Teplice's home ground which holds about 17,500. It was sold out, but I expect the game versus the ROI to be played in Prague, which means about 35,000 capacity, if you were to play at the national stadium.
We had a very generous 5,000 tickets from the Czech FA for our game in Teplice, so I imagine you'll get in the region of 7,500. Hope that helps.
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