Stan and Roy Keane on same FA training course!

**paul_oshea** · 06/06/2007, 1:42 PM

Improving your own interpersonal skills

to pass this does one need to learn off the top 20 most used phrases in football management along with learning the art of "mind games"? A says "i dont like their stlye of play" A is playing "mind games with B....hmm yes very intricate mind games there alright.......i cant imagine this course being very tricky somehow.....

**NeilMcD** · 06/06/2007, 2:23 PM

I think they will be dealing with stuff like, dealing with young players who are homesick, dealing with the players parents. Dealing with agents. Having to let a young player go because he is not good enough.

**tricky_colour** · 06/06/2007, 3:33 PM

Stan is going to look pretty stupid if he wins the European Championship
before he has ompleted the course!!

**tricky_colour** · 06/06/2007, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Keane has already said before that these courses are invaluable and that he thinks its madness any player just thinking they can go into managment without doing these sort of courses. They prepare you for taking training session and dealing with players who are homesick and much more. There is so much now to a managers job, any sort of preparation like this has to be good. They have had these courses in France and Spain and Italy and Holland for years and it has not dones their players technique any harm. Also most of the managers at the top end in England are foreign which suggests that the FA have a long way to go to cach up. Years of neglect and lack of preparation and giving jobs to ex players on the basis of reputation have set footballing standards back in England. The only reason the top clubs are doing well is due to Skys money and the abilty to bring in foreign players.

However he did pretty well without being on any course didn't he, at Sunderland? No doubt next year when he has all his badges he will get relegated

**Jerry The Saint** · 06/06/2007, 5:30 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

To pass the coach has to prove that he or she is competent in the following areas:

# How to plan and evaluate your team's strategic season programme
# How to succeed in one key fixture during the season
# Improving the performance of one key player
# Improving your own interpersonal skills
# Building upon your existing coaching skills with specific emphasis

It's not looking good for Stan, is it

**NeilMcD** · 07/06/2007, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

However he did pretty well without being on any course didn't he, at Sunderland? No doubt next year when he has all his badges he will get relegated

He did loads of courses before he had even left Utd. He has said that these courses were invaluable to when he took over at Sunderland. In addition he did not take the Sunderland job when he was offered it after he left Celtic as he still had a few badges to get. He turned the job down as a result. Thats how important he felt the coaching badges were to him.

**OwlsFan** · 07/06/2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Thats how important he felt the coaching badges were to him.

Badges? Badges? He don't need no stinking badges!!

There are a whole host of coaches on this site telling Stan what to do and they don't have a badge, except perhaps a Blue Peter one, between them.

**NeilMcD** · 07/06/2007, 1:10 PM

Whats your point.

**geysir** · 07/06/2007, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Badges? Badges? He don't need no stinking badges!!

There are a whole host of coaches on this site telling Stan what to do and they don't have a badge, except perhaps a Blue Peter one, between them.

It would be craic if Stan got his diploma and Roy had to repeat.
Or does anybody fail these things?
Certificate of completion rather than competence.

**paul_oshea** · 07/06/2007, 1:39 PM

Certificate of completion rather than competence.

exactly. 90 hours are done at the club, the other majority hours are done on a teleconference call. "howareye lads, that was a great game at the weekend, what tactics did you use?!"

**youngirish** · 07/06/2007, 2:18 PM

Stan will probably get a nice badge at the end of it that he can stick on his coaching jacket reading Qualified Du Gaffur.

Keane will fail because the course directors are anti Cork.

**OwlsFan** · 07/06/2007, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Whats your point.

It's call humour. You should try it sometime

**paul_oshea** · 07/06/2007, 3:13 PM

yes neil is uber-serious isnt he? :P

**NeilMcD** · 07/06/2007, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

It's call humour. You should try it sometime

What is humour

**Billsthoughts** · 07/06/2007, 4:14 PM

there was no Humour evident in that post Neil so dont worry.
As for the courses.....werent all the best coaches a touch on the maverick side and these courses tend to produce managers with no faith in the players creativity?