Rugby World Cup

**shakermaker1982** · 21/09/2007, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

Can I say, I heard some of the rumours that are, supposedly, upsetting the camp.

I'm reluctant to post them as some of them are fairly ridiculous.

Your not wrong there, Stringer and O'Gara have been wronged.

I can believe that Flannery/Best fell out on the training ground but the rest are personal attacks which is a sneaky way of trying to unsettle the team before a huge game.

**Torn-Ado** · 21/09/2007, 1:19 PM

Ah feck it. This is the chatter going around from what I've heard elsewhere.

Pinch of salt people. I hope so anyways:

The team are p issed off with O'Sullivan en masse for being too conservative and there is dissention in the ranks about players not being given time on the pitch. Apparently they have been for while

O'Gara & Stringer have not spoken for a few yrs

O'Driscoll is running the show out there now and insisted that Reddin be started and should have been in the team for the past 12 months

O'Gara was caught in bed with his wifes sister and not for the first time She was taking him to the cleaners but JP McManus has stepped in to stop it going public and is looking after her financially - no mention of Rog's gambling debts

O'Sullivan hates Geordan Murphy period and was forced to bring him

Trimble is in ahead of GM because of Ulster representation with Best out

Hickie had to declare his retirement pre world cup due to some venture post world cup

More anon

Drico had a go at the munster forwards, Stringer and Hickie in the dressing room after the match Saturday.
This was after he did his usual interviews and after Paulie had tried to rally the troops and it didn't go down well, particularly his scathing attack on Hickie.
Leinster Munster divide is evident
Drico insisted on redden being picked ahead of Eddies choice Boss - what are they paying Eddie to do if BOD if picking the team?
Hickie and Quinlan not speaking - Quinlans fianc� is an ex of Hickies Wallace is on painkillers to play but has told EOS he's not right and can't sidestep - Eddie doesn't want to know Leamy was diagnosed by Liam Hennessy as a borderline diabetic but Eddie won't let him either take medicine as you have to declare before the world cup or rest.
O Gara is in charge of the dress code when they're going out but lost the plot on Sunday night when some players slagged him over the Newbridge cufflinks he had given to the squad. (They all have to donate a present to the squad). That ended up with O gara refusing to go out and going back to the hotel.
Mal and Donnacha had a blazing row in training yesterday - not the usual training dustup. Quinlan and Easterby also had a few pops at each other.
Before the Georgia game the 2nd 15 beat the starting 15, 32-20 in a 40 minute game O Donovan not happy as EOS has got extra 4 years but he hasn't

**pete** · 21/09/2007, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by pete

27/08 I think O'Sullivan has messed up the preparation so much that he has little option but to play his strongest team from the first game. With no reserves worth talking about they may be battered & bruised even if they make it through to the quarter finals..

Unfortunately looks like I was correct...

**Risteard** · 21/09/2007, 1:57 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

Ah feck it. This is the chatter going around from what I've heard elsewhere.

Pinch of salt people. I hope so anyways:
he team are p issed off with O'Sullivan en masse for being too conservative and there is dissention in the ranks about players not being given time on the pitch. Apparently they have been for while

O'Gara & Stringer have not spoken for a few yrs

O'Driscoll is running the show out there now and insisted that Reddin be started and should have been in the team for the past 12 months

O'Gara was caught in bed with his wifes sister and not for the first time She was taking him to the cleaners but JP McManus has stepped in to stop it going public and is looking after her financially - no mention of Rog's gambling debts

O'Sullivan hates Geordan Murphy period and was forced to bring him

Trimble is in ahead of GM because of Ulster representation with Best out

Hickie had to declare his retirement pre world cup due to some venture post world cup

More anon

Drico had a go at the munster forwards, Stringer and Hickie in the dressing room after the match Saturday.
This was after he did his usual interviews and after Paulie had tried to rally the troops and it didn't go down well, particularly his scathing attack on Hickie.
Leinster Munster divide is evident
Drico insisted on redden being picked ahead of Eddies choice Boss - what are they paying Eddie to do if BOD if picking the team?
Hickie and Quinlan not speaking - Quinlans fianc� is an ex of Hickies Wallace is on painkillers to play but has told EOS he's not right and can't sidestep - Eddie doesn't want to know Leamy was diagnosed by Liam Hennessy as a borderline diabetic but Eddie won't let him either take medicine as you have to declare before the world cup or rest.
O Gara is in charge of the dress code when they're going out but lost the plot on Sunday night when some players slagged him over the Newbridge cufflinks he had given to the squad. (They all have to donate a present to the squad). That ended up with O gara refusing to go out and going back to the hotel.
Mal and Donnacha had a blazing row in training yesterday - not the usual training dustup. Quinlan and Easterby also had a few pops at each other.
Before the Georgia game the 2nd 15 beat the starting 15, 32-20 in a 40 minute game O Donovan not happy as EOS has got extra 4 years but he hasn't

I don't know what the procedure is with posting those type of rumours but no salt would be necessary.
I don't think anyone could believe all of that in fairness.

**OneRedArmy** · 21/09/2007, 2:01 PM

Half of it sounds like normal workplace stuff to be honest.

When you work so closely with people for so long a period I'd be surprised if they all don't have people they can't stand.

As for training ground bust-ups, it happens to every rugby team, professional or otherwise!!!

**passinginterest** · 21/09/2007, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by Risteard

I don't know what the procedure is with posting those type of rumours but no salt would be necessary.
I don't think anyone could believe all of that in fairness.

I think the majority of it sounds plausible to be honest. We're like the Dutch football team, complete meltdown when we hit a major tournament.

Having said that if this team isn't fired up by all the trash flying around at the moment they never will be. What odds on a red card or two being flashed in the early stages of the match?

Hope it's a cracker and this team proves to everyone that they can be great.

**gilberto_eire** · 21/09/2007, 2:58 PM

anyone backing us at 4/1??..... im thinking of it!!. france at 1/7 is a bit much in fairness...they robbed us last time we met and the yr before we gave them 3/4 tries in the 1st half and nearly caught them in the 2nd!!

**Torn-Ado** · 21/09/2007, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

anyone backing us at 4/1??..... im thinking of it!!. france at 1/7 is a bit much in fairness...they robbed us last time we met and the yr before we gave them 3/4 tries in the 1st half and nearly caught them in the 2nd!!

I'm going to go for a quintessential Irish defeat.

French try in the last minute.

**Aberdonian Stu** · 21/09/2007, 3:30 PM

All I will say is:

In BOD we trust.

**beautifulrock** · 21/09/2007, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu

:

In BOD we trust.

and all the rest must pay

**pete** · 21/09/2007, 5:07 PM

O Gara is in charge of the dress code when they're going out but lost the plot on Sunday night when some players slagged him over the Newbridge cufflinks he had given to the squad. (They all have to donate a present to the squad). That ended up with O gara refusing to go out and going back to the hotel.

I must for a rumour thats fairly funny. Has he insisted on a certain brand on TV in his room too?

**bennocelt** · 21/09/2007, 5:40 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

anyone backing us at 4/1??..... im thinking of it!!. france at 1/7 is a bit much in fairness...they robbed us last time we met and the yr before we gave them 3/4 tries in the 1st half and nearly caught them in the 2nd!!

nope, i was going to back 3 tries or more, but in the end went for Chabal the animal to score a try at 4/1

Did any of ye guys see TV3 news showing John Delaney in Dublin airport on his way to the game..............makes my blood boil....................surely there are enough Cup games here to keep the head of the FAI busy at home....................

anyway I will be cheering the team who are proud of their flag and anthem

**gustavo** · 21/09/2007, 5:52 PM

I think we will either win heroically or get hammered , cant see us just losing by a few points, hopefully its the former

**Dan K** · 21/09/2007, 7:19 PM

3 points down, 16 minutes gone. Not a bad start, but I don't think I;ve ever felt this sick about a sporting occassion.

**Superhoops** · 21/09/2007, 7:39 PM

30 minutes gone, we are in real trouble.

O'Gara and O'Connell are brutal. Only Flannery and Easterby playing well for us.

**jebus** · 21/09/2007, 8:08 PM

First time I've properly noticed how much of a joke it is to pretend that we sing 'Ireland's Call' with the same passion as the French sing their national anthem, shameful for any Irishman to be honest

**Superhoops** · 21/09/2007, 8:37 PM

Jesus, O'Connell is some ********. How the f**k did he think he was going to get away with that kind of stupidity in front of Chris White. Sin Bin fully deserved. F**k all use sitting on the sideline. He should be dropped for the last game.

**Dan K** · 21/09/2007, 8:50 PM

Well, that's pretty much that for another four years.

**Soper** · 21/09/2007, 8:56 PM

That's pretty much it for another 40 years more like. Nothing to replace the current crop.

**pete** · 21/09/2007, 9:06 PM

Our defence was good until it did not matter any more. Showed nothing in attack & team still does not any sharpness.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. IMO O'Sullivan is to blame as he has no bench let alone a squad. 4 more years of O'Sullivan

Almost no chance of scoring 4 tries against Argentina & keep them outside 7 points.