Alex Bruce (and other general debate)

[youngirish]

Youngirish how do you know that Manc Irish Wolf does not go to see Wolves week in week out.


"I'm nearly always right about young players (It's frighteningly accurate) as I don't just spout off after watching half a game unlike a few regulars on here"

Quote of the year on this forum. Why dont you go home and make love to yourself. Talk about patting yourself on the back.

I know because he hasn't the foggiest about Potter (or Alex Bruce for that matter). And if he does go week in week out he should start asking some of the fans around him for their opinions because he needs guidance before he is led too far astray from the path of sanity.

I'm making love to myself at the moment. If he read my previous posts on young players which I do preseason every year maybe he would be mildly embarrassed about spouting such sh*te. I've seen Potter more times playing than I make love to myself and he's an average Championship player at best. He would need to improve dramatically to be a decent Premiership and therefore International player. It can be done but at the moment I wouldn't have him near the Irish team against decent opposition or we'll continue to go nowhere.

[Billsthoughts]

I'm making love to myself at the moment.

Finally a bit of honesty on this forum....

[youngirish]

Finally a bit of honesty on this forum....

NeilMcD and MancIrishWolf are making love to Alex Bruce and Darren Potter by the sounds of things in some sick player/fan lovefest orgy.

[Billsthoughts]

..........altho lets not have too much honesty.....

[ifk101]

I'm making love to myself at the moment.

….. oh my …..

If he read my previous posts on young players which I do pre season every year maybe he would be mildly embarrassed about spouting such sh*te.

modesty at its best

I've been keeping an eye on him for about 4 years now unlike the 90 mins you probably have only ever seen him play.

…. stalking?

I've seen Potter more times playing than I make love to myself and he's an average Championship player at best.

…. yikes!

Look at my postings on young Irish players over the last few years to see how much my opinion counts. I'm nearly always right about young players (it's frighteningly accurate) as I don't just spout off after watching half a game unlike a few regulars on here. Listen and learn it could do you good.

Post of the year candidate???

We'll see who over time is right about Bruce and Potter (me)

Oh sweet divine jaysus….

[youngirish]

modesty at its best

Post of the year candidate???

F**k modesty it's true.

[GavinZac]

useless, hopefully his last call up. seemed very "reactionary" or something - kept rushing out when it wasn't needed, diving headers out of his own box under no pressure. not exactly a passer of the ball either.

[NeilMcD]

I have not defended Bruce at all and in other thread I said he was very poor. So you are wrong to say I am making love to Alex Bruce. As for Darren Potter, well he is a pretty fine strapping lad with a lovely touch.

[youngirish]

I have not defended Bruce at all and in other thread I said he was very poor. So you are wrong to say I am making love to Alex Bruce. As for Darren Potter, well he is a pretty fine strapping lad with a lovely touch.

So you are making love to Darren Potter then? I don't understand then you congratulated MancIrishWolf for disagreeing with me because I initially said Bruce was rubbish when in fact you actually agreed with me? This forum messes with me mind I'm off to ourweecountry.com. At least they make sense on there in a hateful, bigoted sort of way.

[NeilMcD]

What I agreed with was this.

"Once again quick to judge, YoungIrish. Yesterday Potter was a very limited player and we were lacking in centre-midfielders - he proves you wrong. Now your attention turns to Bruce and centre backs is a problem area. Both are young Kids, are learning and will progress"


But maybe I am an armchair supporter who needs to speak to more people on other forums. I am not sure oh wise one.

[Dodge]

So you are making love to Darren Potter then? I don't understand then you congratulated MancIrishWolf for disagreeing with me because I initially said Bruce was rubbish when in fact you actually agreed with me? This forum messes with me mind.

I'd suggest you leave it then if I didn't love you for your Roy Keane outburts

[Manc Irish Wolf]

Absolutely brilliant! I have to say that in all my years of having to endure the deluded, self-righteous, uninformative observations of watchers of football (not supporters), that has to be up there with the best of them! If I can pick you up on a couple of points

[QUOTE=youngirish;691779]So Potter's brilliant now he had one good half of a game? Who is quick to judge? I've been keeping an eye on him for about 4 years now unlike the 90 mins you probably have only ever seen him play. Look at the wolves forums if you think he's such a great talent for the fans opinions. I'll take their opinion over you thanks you very much as they've watched him all season and at best they think he's a fairly average player (in the Championship).
QUOTE]

I am a Wolves fan and I too have a season ticket. Therefore, am slightly more qualified than your good self to comment on his progress this season. Having underperformed at Right Wing, not his natural position, Potter has come into great favour with the Wolves fans, especially playing in the deep centre midfield role. If you speak to any genuine Wolves fans and around Wolverhampton (rather than distant perennial moaners who generally frequent such website message boards - sound familiar?) they will tell you likewise. His greatest asset is his off the ball running and ability to create and find space, something which you will not be able to appreciate on your TV screen.

As for Bruce I've seen him numerous times playing for Birmingham and Ipswich again unlike your one game observation and let me say that he is c*ap. Look at my postings on young Irish players over the last few years to see how much my opinion counts. I'm nearly always right about young players (it's frighteningly accurate) as I don't just spout off after watching half a game unlike a few regulars on here. Listen and learn it could do you good.

I too have seen Bruce play for Birmingham and Ipswich and admit that he's no John Terry. However, he is young and developing in a position in which the best players mature a lot later in their playing careers due to strength and the wisdom of positioning, so deserves our support. As for your ridiculous spoutings about "My opinions count", "I am nearly always right" - this simply sounds like the desperate plea of an insecure man - don't worry we'll listen to you. Your opinion does count - but only as much as the next man.

[youngirish]

What I agreed with was this.

"Once again quick to judge, YoungIrish. Yesterday Potter was a very limited player and we were lacking in centre-midfielders - he proves you wrong. Now your attention turns to Bruce and centre backs is a problem area. Both are young Kids, are learning and will progress"


But maybe I am an armchair supporter who needs to speak to more people on other forums. I am not sure oh wise one.

Quick to judge about Bruce but right?!! Isn't that a talent that should be nurtured and developed with love and care? As i've stated I'm not quick to judge in either case anyway. Bruce isn't young enough to still have time to develop into a top player anyway. He's 23 in a few months. It's too long an uphill road. He's far too rubbish.

[GavinZac]

Your opinion does count - but only as much as the next man.

unless the next man is from cork, at which point the GLSC (General Law of Superiority of Cork) kicks in.

[NeilMcD]

Quick to judge about Bruce but right?!! Isn't that a talent that should be nurted and developed with love and care? As i've stated I'm not quick to judge in either case anyway. Bruce isn't young enough to still have time to develop into a top player anyway. It's too long an uphill road. He's far too rubbish.

No not right at all because what you said is.

"He has a point though Alex Bruce is dire, hopefully we shall never see him in a competitive International"


What I believe is that Bruce was not great for 30 mins last night along with Bennett as they had not agreed on how to play the offside trap. When that was rectified at half time they were solid in the second half. World class or international class they are both a long way off but I would not expect that from either of them. Do they have a future with Ireland, who is to know but I was impressed with how they improved in the 2nd half. But overall I thought both were poor. Your comments in my view are simplistic and OTT comments but thats just my opinion of your comments. Other than that you are probaby the best talen spotter foot.ie has ever had and why you are not employed as a scout by the FAI or some Premiership club I will never know.

[youngirish]

I too have seen Bruce play for Birmingham and Ipswich and admit that he's no John Terry. However, he is young and developing in a position in which the best players mature a lot later in their playing careers due to strength and the wisdom of positioning, so deserves our support. As for your ridiculous spoutings about "My opinions count", "I am nearly always right" - this simply sounds like the desperate plea of an insecure man - don't worry we'll listen to you. Your opinion does count - but only as much as the next man.

If Alex Bruce becomes a decent top level footballer I'll chew my own arm off.

If Potter becomes a top class midfielder playing for a good team (preferrably top half) regularly in the Premiership (and this is the only situation IMO that we should be happy to have him in the Irish team) then I'll chew the other one off.

If we are happy for average Championship players to be playing in one of the most important positions in the Irish team then truly the good days are gone forever. As I've stated earlier Potter needs dramatic improvement to be a good player at the top tier. It's not impossible, Stephen Hunt did it (though I think next season will be a difficult one for him so I wouldn't get carried away with Hunt yet), but it's nowhere on the horizon yet and he'll be 23 early next season not 19 or 20.

Your comments in my view are simplistic and OTT comments but thats just my opinion of your comments. Other than that you are probaby the best talen spotter foot.ie has ever had and why you are not employed as a scout by the FAI or some Premiership club I will never know.

I'm sorry next time I'll write an EalingGreen length essay to explain the negative qualities that could potentially hamper the progression of Alex Bruce to the top level of International and club football. Or else just continue to do my work talent spotting for Ajax before I get sacked.

[Sligo Hornet]

If Alex Bruce becomes a decent top level footballer I'll chew my own arm off.

Assuming he does make it ( any many of us do )...........would you garlic sauce with that sir??

[Billsthoughts]

If Alex Bruce becomes a decent top level footballer I'll chew my own arm off.

thus bringing your love making to an end.....

[youngirish]

thus bringing your love making to an end.....

I'll learn to use me feet. A trick Alex Bruce needs to be taught.

[Billsthoughts]

I'll learn to use me feet. A trick Alex Bruce needs to be taught.

very good.....