Bertie the Coward

[Aldini98]

Bertie is truely the idiots Taoiseach.

Hes got my vote.

[Calcio Jack]

Anyone see Brian Cowan o0n Q&A's last night, aside from grunting like some kind of slavering animal ,he gave a very interesting answer when questioned as to whether FF would accept support from SF. He said that whilst they wouldn't enter into coalition with them or negoiate in any way with SF, he declared that on the 14th of June when the Dail resumes, FF will be nominating Bertie for the role of Taoisceach and if he was elected due to votes from SF, FF would be happy to operate as a minority Government propped up by SF....

So a vote for FF is in effect a vote to allow SF into power..... or put it another way Cowan's reply was yet another classic example of FF cute hoorism.... " we won't go into goverment with FF but if the Dail decides to elect bertie as Taoisceach we'll abide by that..."

PS... is there a moratorium after today on posts relating to the election ?

[beautifulrock]

PS... is there a moratorium after today on posts relating to the election ?

I hope so, as we seem to be rehashing the same arguments over and over. Like the run up itself it started off interesting but is now getting boring. Infact, yesterday on every occasion I visited the forum there were more people visitng the rubbish section than current affairs says it all really.

[WeAreRovers]

So a vote for FF is in effect a vote to allow SF into power..... or put it another way Cowan's reply was yet another classic example of FF cute hoorism.... " we won't go into goverment with FF but if the Dail decides to elect bertie as Taoisceach we'll abide by that..."

That parliamentary democracy hey? It'll be the death of us yet.

KOH

[Magicme]

He doesn't though. Nor will he ever, regardless of who it is



How far is Cavan from Monaghan? What's the population?



By voting Green?? Come on now



The Greens having lots of power would be a disaster

I agree they prob wont give a **** but that doesnt mean that I should stop asking and expecting them to. If we do we may as well roll over and die or move to Limerick.

Cavan is a bigger town and is 45 mins by ambulance from hospital to hospital(apparently but when my very sick son was being transfered there on a Saturday night it took longer) over very bumpy winding roads. I prob wouldnt mind Cavan being the hospital for the region if it could cope with both counties. It just cant and the more sensible thing to do is to have 2 hospitals. People in Monaghan can be looked after in Monaghan hospital unless it is very serious and then transfer them to which ever hospital they need to be treated in. We need an A&E that is open 24 hours. With heart attacks and bad road accidents the first half hour is a matter of life and death and if they have to be taken from the back end of Knockatallon or Carrickroe to Cavan they will be dead on arrival.

I told you my reasons for voting Green. He is the one candidate I have total confidence in to do a good job in my area and I would like to see the Greens in there with whoever is elected to mix it up a bit and bring some new ideas for the running of our country. They wont have "lots of power" if they are the 3rd wheel but they may just have enough environmental savvy to stop us from destroying our country and the planet.

[GavinZac]

They wont have "lots of power" if they are the 3rd wheel but they may just have enough environmental savvy to stop us from destroying our country and the planet.

like they did in galway? no thanks

[Bluebeard]

I hope so, as we seem to be rehashing the same arguments over and over.

Right so, lets rehash some new arguments then.

I say that the winners of this election all get an all-expenses paid two week to Basra, and are obliged to wear George Bush is Great T-Shirts, and wear American flag bandanas.

Then, after the Iraqi insurregnt types sort out our biggest problem, (and simultaneously giving the "Liberation Force" a couple of weeks off), we can sort out politics in Ireland for once and for all.

Every week day evening for 3 months from 19h to 21h, and then at 21h30 to 22h, we should have a new reality tv show on RTE called "Who wants to be a Minis-taire!" (the exclamation mark and the deliberate misspelling are key to the success of the show). It will be presented by David Hanley from Morning Ireland and Caroline Morahan from the back of celebrity beyond.

Each night, a different department is tackled (i.e. one a fortnight), and members of the general public (carefully screened to ensure that we get the zaniest, most fun candidates) have to prove their worth by undertaking a number of tasks, such as kissing babies, lying about scandals, attending GAA games and football matches in Scotland and England, attending the funerals of club footed butchers who were rumoured to beat their wives, telling people that a white paper would be due in the Autumn, attending the opeings of supermarkets, ringing people to have potholes filled in on a temporary basis, and talking to Ryan Tubridy about their love for paella.

They are then grilled by the panel, comprising of former minister Maire Geoghan Quinn, politically controversial writer, wit and racconteur Eoghan Harris, and celebrity fat pain-in-the-arse Brendan O'Connor. After they select their two losers, the public can vote during the news and we can then have the results afterwards.

The final will consist of three final candidates. After the last person is knocked out in the conventional way, the three will have the following fortnight to "do something" on a topical subject in that brief that will be picked from a hat by Bryan Dobson live on air. Noted lobbyists will be in the studio audience and will make a comment on what they are going to look for during the week. The person who gets least media exposure and backhanders will be eliminated and from the remaining two, the winner will be voted for by the general public. The winner gets a six month contract, so the whole thing starts again on TV in three months.

I reckon it would dramatically improve exposure to politics in Ireland, and certainly would do no harm.

[bennocelt]

delicious irony

yeah but are the clinically insane allowed to vote these days?! (that was the point, which i thought was obvious)

[Magicme]

Totally agree Bluebeard.

[Calcio Jack]

That parliamentary democracy hey? It'll be the death of us yet.

KOH

I guess one man's 'cute hoorism' is another's 'parliamentary democracy' ...come on the Blue Shirts

[monutdfc]

How far is Cavan from Monaghan? What's the population?

I know an ambulance driver who has told me of several lives he could have saved only he had to drive to Cavan or Drogheda with critical cases. Have you heard of the 'Golden Hour' - ie the hour after a heart attack or road traffic accident that is the most important?

By voting Green?? Come on now
The Greens having lots of power would be a disaster

You have to respect magicme's right to an opinion.
You state your opinion as if it were fact.
How would it be a disaster, and why?

Global Warming could be a much, much greater disaster. Maybe not for you and me, but for our children.
Global Warming is the hot political issue in the UK, with the Conservatives and Labour trying to out-green each other. It hasn't even been on the radar in the election here.

[monutdfc]

How do I nominate Bluebeard for POTM?
Very funny!

[Bluebeard]

Totally agree Bluebeard.

I still reckon your version of Bears on the Run is ratings gold though.

[Magicme]

I still reckon your version of Bears on the Run is ratings gold though.

I reckon it just shows the sick state of my mind!

[Lim till i die]

like they did in galway? no thanks

Spot on.

You state your opinion as if it were fact.
How would it be a disaster, and why

The Greens in this country have shown that they're good for nothing except bitching and they're not particularly good at that either

Green Parties the world over have also shown themselves to be toadying turncoats of no real principle

Anyone who thinks they would act as some kind of watchdog as a junior partner in government (Hmm, where did I hear that before) is naive at best

Global Warming could be a much, much greater disaster. Maybe not for you and me, but for our children.

Yes and of course the Green Party are the ONLY PARTY IN THE WORLD who can do anything about it.............

It hasn't even been on the radar in the election here.

Another prime example of the Greens being just a bit crap??

[monutdfc]

Yes and of course the Green Party are the ONLY PARTY IN THE WORLD who can do anything about it.............

They are the only party in this election that have put forward any kind of policies in this regard.
Neither of the 2 main oarties have paid more than lip service.

Another prime example of the Greens being just a bit crap??

My view is (i) the Irish people don't care and/or (ii) the media have allowed the main parties, esp FF, to determine the election agenda from start to finish (once Bertie's house got out of the way)
For example, it was not raised as an issue in the leaders' debate.

[BohsPartisan]

They are the only party in this election that have put forward any kind of policies in this regard.

Maybe in your constituency they are.

[monutdfc]

Maybe in your constituency they are.

(I) I should edit my post:
they are the only party in my consituency who have put forward any kind of policies in this regard beyond lip service
(II) there is no Socialist Party candidate in my constituency

[dahamsta]

Bertie is truely the idiots Taoiseach.

A corrupt gombeen man for a corrupt gombeen electorate.

It's "idiot's" btw. Possessive noun. Irony rocks.

adam

[Schumi]

A corrupt gombeen man for a corrupt gombeen electorate.

It's "idiot's" btw. Possessive noun. Irony rocks.

adam

I would have thought "idiots' " myself.