Polling Cards Mess

**pete** · 18/05/2007, 9:41 PM

Anyone get theres?

Got two today.

Pity they have the same name & polling booth number on

**Poor Student** · 18/05/2007, 9:47 PM

Vote early and often.

**jebus** · 18/05/2007, 10:08 PM

Apparantly I don't exist as an Irish citizen at the moment. Went to make sure I'm registered in Limerick a few weeks back, they couldn't find it, thought '**** it I'll do the late registeration' down here in Cork, did it, found out today they didn't bother processing it, but my flatmate got his polling card today, along with a guy called Rick Chamberlain, who suppesedly lives with us, so I've decided I'm going to impersonate him on polling day so I get to vote. So yep I have experienced the polling card mess

**GavinZac** · 19/05/2007, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

Apparantly I don't exist as an Irish citizen at the moment. Went to make sure I'm registered in Limerick a few weeks back, they couldn't find it, thought '**** it I'll do the late registeration' down here in Cork, did it, found out today they didn't bother processing it, but my flatmate got his polling card today, along with a guy called Rick Chamberlain, who suppesedly lives with us, so I've decided I'm going to impersonate him on polling day so I get to vote. So yep I have experienced the polling card mess

Reported this post to the gardai, thats what you get for your blueshirt leanings!

**pete** · 19/05/2007, 10:35 AM

I wouldn't mind if i got two different polling cards but two identical ones arriving on the same day is no use to me.

I changed my vote to Dublin years ago but I was still registered at my family home until recently. You have to wonder how accurate the vote is when they can't centralise the system. It would be simple to implement as anyone over the age of 16 (i think) has a unique PPS number...

**dahamsta** · 19/05/2007, 6:02 PM

Another rant about this here. Another example of Fianna Fail incompetence.

adam

**sligoman** · 19/05/2007, 11:18 PM

Got mine Thursday, one missing though.

**GavinZac** · 19/05/2007, 11:56 PM

im curious as to how this is fine fail's fault? i'd hope no particular party has control over the voting register after all.

**beautifulrock** · 20/05/2007, 12:25 AM

Who actually controls the voting register, is it each individual count council or is there a central control in place. I cannot see how an individual political party can control who receives a card.

**dahamsta** · 20/05/2007, 1:19 AM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

im curious as to how this is fine fail's fault? i'd hope no particular party has control over the voting register after all.

Fianna Fail is in Government. Hello?

**Bald Student** · 20/05/2007, 1:58 AM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Fianna Fail is in Government. Hello?

Hello,
Where I live it's a FG/Lab alliance on the council. Proof, if anyone needs it, that changing government won't make a tap of differnece to the country.

**pete** · 20/05/2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bald Student

Hello, Where I live it's a FG/Lab alliance on the council. Proof, if anyone needs it, that changing government won't make a tap of difference to the country.

The government runs the country via a cabinet of Ministers. The Minister for Environment (this includes local government portfolio) tells the local councils what to do as he funds the majority of their budget.

You can suggest no difference between the government options but local government has feck all power.

**dahamsta** · 20/05/2007, 1:14 PM

What pete said. The project to update the register was managed directly by the incumbent. They did a great job, what?

They should put the Revenue in charge of it. They know where everyone lives, and what they're entitled to.

adam

**GavinZac** · 20/05/2007, 1:22 PM

Perhaps they're waiting for electronic voting.

**pete** · 20/05/2007, 1:29 PM

I think one of the big problems with FF lead governments is the inability to cast adrift Minister unable or incapable of delivering. Cullen is the obvious example constantly shuffled between departments as he makes a mess one after the other. Ivor Callely had to be dragged literally from his office. How does Willie O'Dea become a Minister on anything else other than politics.

PPS number is perfect for centralised system. It should be simple electronic process of moving voters from one constituency to another. Also prevents double voting.

**BohsPartisan** · 20/05/2007, 3:01 PM

Originally Posted by pete

PPS number is perfect for centralised system. It should be simple electronic process of moving voters from one constituency to another. Also prevents double voting.

Don't bet on it. There are people with more than one PPS number (not supposed to happen but does particularly with self employed, plus PPS numbers are not linked to your current address unless you actually tell the department of Social and Family Affairs you have moved.

**pete** · 20/05/2007, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Don't bet on it. There are people with more than one PPS number (not supposed to happen but does particularly with self employed, plus PPS numbers are not linked to your current address unless you actually tell the department of Social and Family Affairs you have moved.

I suppose you would have to ensure people register their PPS number at a specific address to allow them vote in that constituency as opposed to allowing people just turn up on the day. Not perfect but a whole lot better than current mess.

**Bald Student** · 20/05/2007, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by pete

The government runs the country via a cabinet of Ministers. The Minister for Environment (this includes local government portfolio) tells the local councils what to do as he funds the majority of their budget.

You can suggest no difference between the government options but local government has feck all power.

Cool,
You probably know more about the inns and outs of this than me but I definately thing that one of the reasons local government is in such a state in this country is because noone ever holds it responsible for its mistakes.

In any case, this is probably off topic.

**Saint Tom** · 20/05/2007, 5:04 PM

i got two polling cards at different adresses and different constituencies (one family and one rented) in two different council areas of Dublin. I wouldnt mind but I never applied to be added to a register in my rented accommodation.

the responsibilty does lie with the minister who's brief does include local government and the register

**BohsPartisan** · 20/05/2007, 5:31 PM

Originally Posted by pete

I suppose you would have to ensure people register their PPS number at a specific address to allow them vote in that constituency as opposed to allowing people just turn up on the day. Not perfect but a whole lot better than current mess.

Aye, as it is, you usually only find out they are at a new address if they actually have some dealings with the DSFA.